Any other non smartphone users remaining?
1st July 2017 at 21:33 #1786120
I am probably in a minority of one but if there are any others i am posting to say that I think our days are numbered.
It would seem that the service providers are either removing or downgrading 2G (old-school phones) coverage in favor of 3G/4G.
I am with Free and have always had good mobile reception at my place albeit from Orange for Free customers where there is no Free coverage, indeed I can see the transmitter up on the chateau d’eau, line of site less than 1km with no obstructions.
Recently I lost the réseau for a couple of days but it came back, I now know it was while Free were commissioning a new antenne above a nearby HLM, now it has come on stream (4G only) I have lost my signal, if I cycle to any of the 3 transmitters I pick it up but it fades very quickly like it has little power.
Back at home the Free simcard that gets no signal in my old 2G phone gets 4 bars and super rapid internet in a smartphone so I have had no choice but to buy one, I need to be contactable for the business.
I thought it was a commercial thing between Free and Orange, now that Free have their own réseau in may area Orange no longer provide, tough luck to me with a 2G phone but hey-ho, however my luddite French pal who has been an Orange customer for decades can no longer use his 2G phone at my place, mind you he could never use it at his tiny village either.
Anyway my conclusion is that the 2G coverage is not what it used to be and getting worse, going for a drive today to collect the smartphone seemed to bear that out.1st July 2017 at 21:40 #1786123
I have an old Nokia phone, which, guess what, can be used as a phone to speak to people. And nothing else (well SMS). Fine for me.
"Je préfère pleurer dans ma Jaguar plutôt que dans un autobus" - F. Sagan1st July 2017 at 21:55 #1786125
As was my Nokia.
The smartphone may have had 4 bars of superswishy high speed connection but do you think I could even get the fecking thing to make a call?
I will spare you the detail but suffice to say that the not so smart-phone did not survive a very brutal assault and my hand is now in a bandage.
My 2004 Nokia with a Tesco PAYG card is my sole means of contact now, its doing exactly what it says on the tin and connects to either Bouygues or SFR from my home without turning me into a psychopathic killer.1st July 2017 at 22:54 #1786132
noisetteParticipantJoined: 23 Jul 2005Location: Lot-et-Garonne (47)Total posts: 1157
I do sympathise! Having chucked an iPhone because it did everything except make intelligible phone calls, I’m not the most savvy phone user. But…on a recent catastrophic trip to UK it would have been even more catastrophique without a smartphone. Thankfully the roaming charges were abolished in May. Connection to internet…invaluable! Telephonic connection to friends/breakdown saviours/ airlines……how would you manage otherwise nowadays?? Frankly, OH wasn’t much use with his ancient Nokia Leclerc PAYG.
Be alert!!!!! Your country needs lerts2nd July 2017 at 00:12 #1786140
Well up until yesterday I managed just fine including frequent trips to the UK but I did have to lug a computer with me and hook onto one neighbours BT-FON wi-fi using another neighbours BT log in details and password, her router was not as powerfull as his, he was a long way away, in the next county in fact!!
In 2004 I managed even better, I travelled around the world without even a phone, used the internet when I was in built up tourist areas with internet cafés, booked several flights, ferries etc with it, no on-ine booking of hostels then.
It was truly the happiest period of my life having no contact after having been on call with a peger and then mobile phone for 15 years, sadly I will not be able to travel that way again now, I see it from the other side now as an accomodation provider getting most of my bookings from the net from people using mobile devices, I still get walk ins but at 99% occupancy when they turn up on the day I am usually already fully booked.
So i do agree that it is essential now, just dont expect me to like it!!2nd July 2017 at 09:27 #1786159
Well, I still manage and that includes travelling. And I don’t leave it switched on either ! The only time it is left on is when I am trailering a car long distance to a rallye or a long trip so my wife or navigateur can contact me.
"Je préfère pleurer dans ma Jaguar plutôt que dans un autobus" - F. Sagan2nd July 2017 at 09:56 #1786164
loopskiBlockedJoined: 23 Jan 2013Location: deux sèvresTotal posts: 9778
Edge still working fine with the clamshells in the profondes regions of Deux Chèvres.
I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.2nd July 2017 at 09:58 #1786165
Given that a basic smartphone is so cheap to purchase these days my question would be ” why not have one?”
My cheapo Android smartphone gets few outings & is rarely connected to the internet but is invaluable when I occasionally need the ‘smart’ features.
Synchronised to my tablet the Kindle feature has passed many an otherwise boring time waiting in doctors surgeries & the like. A vibration app. sorts out propeller balancing problems on my model aircraft & an excellent map of France has helped me find my way on a few occasions.
My phones biggest drawback is how easy it is to download unnecessary apps which makes it slow for my old eyes to find the actuall one I want but that’s my fault not the systems.
It does lots of interesting things including making phone calls so at a cost of about €70 what’s not to like?
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.2nd July 2017 at 10:38 #1786170
Curtis, mine was never switched on either for my first 10 years in France, the second happiest period of my life, however with up to 5 different customers arriving each day and multiple phone enquiries sady I became a slave to the phone again about 3 years ago.
Whats not to like? Well nothing for the rest of the world population excepting Curtis and myself, I get that, no-one needs to justify their love/addiction any more and to be fair its been a long time since people were boorishly insisting that I too must wear the emporers new clothes.
I just dont want to join them but the downgrading of the 2G network in my area has forced me to and being forced to do something against your desires is always painfull.
I’ll happily admit if I decide I was wrong in my opposition, I did so with tumble driers but for now I just want a phone point bar, not something allegedly smart that does everything except fulfill its primary purpose, I want to put my sim card in a phone, switch it on and make a call, not wait 3 minutes while it boots up and then have to answer hundreds of questions about whether I want to allow this that or the other, whether I want to take photos of my bum and share them with the world, and despite repeatedy clicking never ask again it keeps on doing so, a display that switches off in 2 seconds before I can even read what the latest hoop is that it wants me to jump through, I never did manage to make a call but I did get it to ring by calling from the home phone.2nd July 2017 at 11:46 #1786184
AardvarkParticipantJoined: 27 May 2009Location: 22Total posts: 2457
What the hell is 2g/3g/4g?
My “dumb” phone (Nokia the size of a mars bar that only cost me €20 new) doesn’t get a signal at home but that’s what the home phone is for. I take it with me when I go out, in case of breakdowns but only switch it on very rarely just to see if the battery is still alive. I use a proper PC with a real keyboard for all my internet needs and would find it nigh on impossible to do anything on a smartphone without a magnifying glass. It baffles me how people bang on about watching films on their phones. The damned things don’t even play a CD/DVD or let you plug in a USB stick. I have a proper camera that lets me take decent photos that are the right way up and in proper focus. Can a smart phone lense no larger than a matchhead do that. If it could there wouldn’t be the thousands of useless illustrations on ebay, etc. Why would I want to spend €70+ (thanks Vic) on a whole load of functions I will never need or want?2nd July 2017 at 11:50 #1786185
I’ll happily admit if I decide I was wrong in my opposition, I did so with tumble driers but for now I just want a phone point bar, not something allegedly smart that does everything except fulfill its primary purpose, I want to put my sim card in a phone, switch it on and make a call, not wait 3 minutes while it boots up and then have to answer hundreds of questions about whether I want to allow this that or the other, whether I want to take photos of my bum and share them with the world, and despite repeatedy clicking never ask again it keeps on doing so, a display that switches off in 2 seconds before I can even read what the latest hoop is that it wants me to jump through, I never did manage to make a call but I did get it to ring by calling from the home phone.
A statement full of your usual exagerations & obfuscation.
I find it amusing that the bloke who always has an answer for others problems can’t work out how to use a tool most infants use without difficulty.
I get it that you feel the need to be different to the millions (billions?) who use the things but why do you blame the tool when, if your computer problems are anything to go by, it’s obviously you that’s the problem? Are you sure you’re not just imagining these ‘problems’ as a cop out for the fact you can’t understand how the thing works?
I’m no techno geek but managed to find out enough about how the things work to be able to use one with little effort. My phone rarely asks me a question & then only to suggest I might be doing something wrong. Switching it on, for most, is a once a day job as the idea of a mobile phone is to be available to receive calls as well as make them so why should a boot up which takes no longer up than a PC be a problem when you have said you need to be contactable all the time?
It might have “been a long time since people were boorishly insisting that I too must wear the emporers new clothes” but I rather suspect you’ll be wearing ’em soon once you’ve acquired a dresser.
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.2nd July 2017 at 11:53 #1786186
Why would I want to spend €70+ (thanks Vic) on a whole load of functions I will never need or want?
Because you can?
The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it.2nd July 2017 at 11:58 #1786187
gillycParticipantJoined: 30 Jan 2008Location: Chabanais 16Total posts: 1553
we both still use our basic Tesco PAYG phones but we have a campervan and then I have a tablet and a mifi unit which is also PAYG but from 3 so we are always able to contact anyone but much prefer a notebook and basic phone a true Luddite2nd July 2017 at 12:02 #1786188
richmyszParticipantJoined: 03 Jun 2013Location: franceTotal posts: 194
I have an old motorola with a simyo unlimited Pay as you go card.I make maybe 25 calls a year on it.I text mainly.Being hard of hearing makes phones in general pretty crap.I have the phone with me ,mainly not switched on, the most useful thing is the clock.2nd July 2017 at 12:06 #1786189
Vic, what does your phone cost for the abonnement ? Mine is something like 2€ /month.
"Je préfère pleurer dans ma Jaguar plutôt que dans un autobus" - F. Sagan