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    Tricia
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    Nomoss I’ve also worked my way through that gloomy outlook, and found that I’m wasting my time.
    I either spend much money and physical effort going to visit them (at least I’m usually still welcome) or have to be satisfied with the occasional Skype.
    Once I asked eldest what he thought about starting email correspondence, or even snailmail, with his 2 children, 14 and 12. He said they couldn’t keep it up.
    They do try to limit the children’s time online, as do 2 of the others, but it’s so ingrained now. All their friends do it, and that’s what is important to them.


    Tricia

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    Tongues ?


    Je suis Spotty - FSM, he boiled for our sins !

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    jsks
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    nomoss
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    Nomoss I’ve also worked my way through that gloomy outlook, and found that I’m wasting my time. I either spend much money and physical effort going to visit them (at least I’m usually still welcome) or have to be satisfied with the occasional Skype. Once I asked eldest what he thought about starting email correspondence, or even snailmail, with his 2 children, 14 and 12. He said they couldn’t keep it up. They do try to limit the children’s time online, as do 2 of the others, but it’s so ingrained now. All their friends do it, and that’s what is important to them.

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    Tricia

    Children do like smart toys, don’t they?

     


    Thanks to the Autoroutes and the use of GPS it is now possible to travel the length and breadth of France without seeing anything or speaking to anyone. Inspired by Charles Kuralt

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    Aardvark
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    Hopefully someone will produce an “App” for common sense.  But maybe that’s not the answer.  It wouldn’t be of any use once the phone battery goes flat.    :unsure:


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    fittersmate
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    “The people will not revolt, they will not look up from their screens long enough to notice what’s happening,”

    Attributed to George Orwell’s 1984?

    I don’t remember that in the book, and I did it at school – every chapter and paragraph had to be analysed, criticised, and commented on in minute detail – (shudders!).

    I can remember something along the lines of “the proles will never revolt in a thousand years” etc but nothing about screens.


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    “The people will not revolt, they will not look up from their screens long enough to notice what’s happening,”

    Well spotted FM.  It’s actually a quote from the 2014 theatre adaptation and therefore somewhat less prophetic – indeed, since Orwell didn’t actually write that at all it’s not prophetic in the least.:

    http://www.snopes.com/orwell-1984-smartphone-screens/

     

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    Another sooooo useful thing to do with your phonehttps://www.cnet.com/news/flush-with-your-smartphone-toilets-get-bluetooth/


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    Chanceux
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    Smartphone Dumb owner update:

    After beating the first smartphone to death (RIP Wiko Freddy 1) allowing my blood pressure to fall and my palm to heal I heeded all the good advice, I got a second Free sim contract so could continue with my dumb phone while learning the new one, above all I must stop considering the device to be a phone and comparing it to one, its a computer.

    Over the last 2 weeks I have been very patient, at first I could not even work out how to make a call, to even find a number pad to type in the desired number but eventually did, all my contacts were on the other sim in my old phone so I did not spend any more time, I concentrated on learning how to use it as a computer.

    and as a computer it is very very good, i dont do any surfing but just use it with the Sum-Up app and Air Chip n Pin reader to take credit card payments and I find it much better to use than the tablette which is now redundant, I have downloaded the Booking.com app and have gradually been using it to manage the bookings, send messages etc, open and close rooms, add availability and again its very good.

    The aim was to be able to go out and remain updated of any last minute bookings as they stopped sending text messages, i am confident enough with it to do so now so today took my old sim with all the contacts out of the dumbphone and put it in the second card slot.

    Now you would think that after 2 weeks I would be able to make a phone call on this smartphone wouldn’t you? after all I have got to grips with it as a computer, how hard can it be? – perhaps they were thnking “how hard can we make it” for every person like me that batters one to death in frustration they get to sell another :lol:

    Anyway I can access a contact to phone but it keeps asking me 3 stages of questions, Do I want to allow contacts to access photos medias and files? then do I want contacts to send and view SMS messages? then do I allow contacts to access my calender?

    outside of my comfort zone I become a typical Picard Fermé and tick deny to all of them, then I try to call the number again and it asks me all the questions again :cry: I must have done something because before it was 4 questions, then I see the box to touch saying “never ask again” I go through 3 stages of that and still its asking me the same questions, so in desperation I allow all these things that I dont understand and still it wont allow me to dial a contact.

    And that is after 2 weeks of patiently and diligently learning the device.

    As a computer its brilliant, as a phone, well words fail me, i might as well have an old rotary dial GPO phone and my little phone number book. The Free Sim with my contacts is once again back in the old faithfull dumb phone that does what it says on the tin.

    I will get there though, after all everyone else has. In the meantime it still wakes me up at 4am to tell me that it doesn’t have a weather alert for me and Booking.com wake me up at 2 am to remind me to reply to a guest message which needs no reply, the guy had replied to my request for his arrival time, he was fast asleep and would not appreciate being woken any more than me, I have since found that I can put the thing on do not disturb but the Booking.com app still beeps me all day long wanting me to respond to messages that dont need a response for guests who left a week ago.

    As an aside, that annoying bird tweeting tone that I hate, heard it again all the time in Lidl today, is that perhaps people recieving Twitter alerts that some celeb twat has tweeted something?


    • This reply was modified 01 Aug 2017 14:35 by  Chanceux.
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    loopski
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    On home screen, press blue phone icon, enter phone number, press round green phone icon…….


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    Yes, I worked that one out 2 weeks ago, took a very long time though, after pressing the first icon whch is green it then asks you to enter a name or number, tap the empty box and then you have an AZERTY keyboard but no way of finding the numbers, 3 days later and another dumbphone nul who had watched his son in law showed me yet another meaningless icon which accesses the phone numeric keyboard, drag out my little written address and phone number book and I am where I was with my very first mobile phone in 1992.

    2 weeks later and this dumb smartphone owner still cannot dial his contacts without first reading their numbers, writing then down and then typing them in, about 5 or 6 steps in total :lol::lol:

    I could probably order a pizza though although the nearest take-away that delivers is 60km away and the nearest one with on line ordering would be in Paris or across the channel :wink:

    It was the repeated 20 questions (OK 4) without ever being able to dial a number which resulted in the destruction of Freddy 1 :oops:


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    Aardvark
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    So it appears the damned things are useful for loads of things that some of us actually want/need but are woefully crap as a mobile telephone………….oh, and they are expensive with it.  :unsure:


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    I admire your patience, C.  The key to learning how to use one of these extremely handy gadgets is to have a tame teenager within easy reach!

    As for the phone app asking for permissions – there is no reason not to allow those.

    Somewhere you have a weather app or widget that is sending you updates – if you can find it either turn off updates or delete it. You can also turn the device off at night.  Alternatively, if you reduce the volume to zero it should also not disturb you – just remember to turn it on again when you need it.  In fact if you flick down the quick settings feature (put finger at top of screen and flick down) you will see a greyed out setting called ”Do not disturb”. Tap on this and you have the otion for total silence and you can set how many hours until the do not disturb switches the phone back to normal.  It will then return to the volume settings you had before activating the do not disturb.  It’s a handy feature.

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    So it appears the damned things are useful for loads of things that some of us actually want/need but are woefully crap as a mobile telephone………….oh, and they are expensive with it. :unsure:

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    They are actually very good at being a mobile ‘phone – like any tool it’s useless if you don’t know how to use it.

    For example, if Chancer had had his contacts saved to his Google backup and restore feature they would automatically be available on any phone registered to that account.  You can also add info to any contact – for example address, birthday, hobbies, inside leg measurement, whatever – that might be useful to know.

    They are quite useless if the person operating the device hasn’t taken the trouble to learn how to use it.

    I don’t know how to operate a modern theatre-based defibrillator, that does not, however, render them useless.

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