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    dantheman
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    Best to check with your provider as most have plans to stop 2G – which is what nokia bricks work with – in the near future. They don’t want to maintain the 2G infrastructure when fewer people are actually using it. So, you may have little option in the future to use anything but a ‘smartphone’


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    vic evans
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    Vic, what does your phone cost for the abonnement ? Mine is something like 2€ /month.

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    The same as you curtis. 2€/month with Free. We’ve 2 contacts. I never exceed this whereas my missus usually does.

    Except on rare occasions neither of us use the mobile roaming facility.

    My missus also has an Iphone she uses in England on  Tesco sim.


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    Chanceux
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    Best to check with your provider as most have plans to stop 2G – which is what nokia bricks work with – in the near future. They don’t want to maintain the 2G infrastructure when fewer people are actually using it. So, you may have little option in the future to use anything but a ‘smartphone’

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    That is what seems to have happened here, possibly coinciding with Free fitting an antenne (4G only) in a nearby HLM so maybe I can no longer access the Orange 2G transmitter on the chateau d’eau but its also affecting long standing Orange customers like my pal.

    Went to Amiens this morning, on the 30km long roman road where there are no houses but I suppose people still make calls while driving I had a 4 bar signal all the way except for 2 depressions where it has always been sketchy, its only getting back to my village and the adjoining part of town where I would estimate the population being 5000+ that the signal is lost, but of course the vast majority of them will already be using 3G/4G smartphones.

    I second what the others have said about why they dont want to change from their old phones and cameras which do what is expected of them faultlessly and no more, that is their great value to us who now number 4 :lol:


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    Chancer wrote : …  that is their great value to us who now number 4

    So I am number 5 who is being edged towards a smartphone, sooner rather than later. This is because an aged close friend is seriously ill in hospital and her other friends all inter-communicate up to date details of her state of health, what she needs today, who’s visiting her today etc etc by whatsapp and as I don’t have access to that on my non-smart phone they (quietly) grumble and moan about having to email me at home or text me or even, heaven forfend, ring me to keep me in the loop.

    Sue


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    vic evans
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    Chancer wrote : … that is their great value to us who now number 4 So I am number 5 who is being edged towards a smartphone, sooner rather than later.

    Four of you will take to ’em like a duck to water. :whistle:


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    jsks
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    I’m just adjusting the gas lamp so I can read this while OH is changing the needle on the gramophone.  I agree that allowing people choice is a terrible thing which is why we have a Radio Rentals TV that allows all 3 channels in glorious technigrey.  When it’s so easy to get out the horse and cart and pop down to the library on either of the half days a week that it’s open why would anyone need the sum total of human knowledge in the palm of their hand at all times?  Ridiculous.  Anyway, got to go and move the milk into another area of shade to keep it cool although apparently you can get cooling cupboards nowadays but they need an electric city or something which is, of course, how the devil gets into one’s house.

    Soon be getting the letter from our son in Canada telling us when he is coming home – depends on which tramp steamer he can stowaway on.  He can always send a telegram if we need to know anything important.  It’s so easy to get from the port too.  He’s got a cartographic exposition in the form of an Atlas that shows all the drover’s roads between here and the port which makes the 100 mile trip take only 5 or 6 days now – I expect one day there will be motorised contrivances running on smooth pathways that will make the journey easier, but that all sounds a bit modern and threatening to me.

    Still, we must embrace progress.  I was just saying to the doc the other day that if progress continues unabated the leech farmers will go out of business before long. He just told me to keep quiet and bite down hard on the leather strop.

     

    #1786222
    vic evans
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    Still, we must embrace progress.

    :yahoo: :good:


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    curtis
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    Yes,but ! It’s needs and wants. You can spend plenty of time telling me what I need. But if all I want is a telephone……………………………


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    Chanceux
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    Cant quite understand why less than 5 people out of millions can make some uneasy and defensive of their choices.

    I like the needs and wants analogy, far from wanting to deny the millions their choice I am just raling that I have no choice but to purchase something that manifestly does not meet my needs but I completely understand that they are not going to maintain a 2G network for a handfull of users.

    I am sure that when I get another one, if it survives beyond the first five minutes and I get the hang of it it will be of benefit at one time or another and wont be shy of saying so.


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    mangetout
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    I’m with you Curtis.  I actually have a smart phone which my younger brother gave me (one of his cast offs!) but I prefer my old Nokia with a Tesco payg sim.  We only ever carry a mobile when we go out in the car, just in case we breakdown.  Other than that it stays firmly in the drawer.  But I have found that more and more you must give a mobile number when shopping online  so I suppose eventually I’ll have to own up to having one! But I’m reluctant because I don’t want to be bombarded with sales calls and texts.   I hear what jsks says about progress but I want to pick and chose, not be dictated to.  Just because you can doesn’t mean you should.  I deplore the effect that mobiles are having on behaviour.  Never ceases to amaze me how many people enter a restaurant, sit down and take out the phone, completely ignoring their companions.  Along with physical changes brought about by constantly looking down at a screen, I fully expect people to lose the power of speech eventually…….


    • This reply was modified 02 Jul 2017 18:39 by  mangetout.
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    fittersmate
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    I’m just adjusting the gas lamp so I can read this while OH is changing the needle on the gramophone. I agree that allowing people choice is a terrible thing which is why we have a Radio Rentals TV that allows all 3 channels in glorious technigrey. When it’s so easy to get out the horse and cart and pop down to the library on either of the half days a week that it’s open why would anyone need the sum total of human knowledge in the palm of their hand at all times? Ridiculous. Anyway, got to go and move the milk into another area of shade to keep it cool although apparently you can get cooling cupboards nowadays but they need an electric city or something which is, of course, how the devil gets into one’s house. Soon be getting the letter from our son in Canada telling us when he is coming home – depends on which tramp steamer he can stowaway on. He can always send a telegram if we need to know anything important. It’s so easy to get from the port too. He’s got a cartographic exposition in the form of an Atlas that shows all the drover’s roads between here and the port which makes the 100 mile trip take only 5 or 6 days now – I expect one day there will be motorised contrivances running on smooth pathways that will make the journey easier, but that all sounds a bit modern and threatening to me. Still, we must embrace progress. I was just saying to the doc the other day that if progress continues unabated the leech farmers will go out of business before long. He just told me to keep quiet and bite down hard on the leather strop.

    And what, out of all of that scenario, did anybody any harm? Apart from the bite marks in the leather strop.


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    fittersmate
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    I can’t be arsed to read through all the previous doom-laden ink.

    Does this recent change mean that I will not be able to continue to use an ordinary phone that just does phone calls and the occasional text message ?

    I realise that this simple concept is alien to the vast majority of “connected” folks but seriously:-

    All I need from a mobile phone is the ability to shout for help if I need to – and to consult with OH about what we are having for dinner.

    Will that be impossible to do unless I have to consult a”screen” and “swipe it”after these changes?


    • This reply was modified 02 Jul 2017 18:50 by  fittersmate.
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    jsks
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    Apparently there are even people who take to social media to bemoan the digitisation of their lives.

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    Oh – is that what this thread’s about? Just capped on :oops:
    We haven’t got a smartphone whatever that is, I still think a tablet is what I take every morning for heart problems. We do have a portable but hardly ever use it – cost included in our Orange contract.
    My main problem with these minimised gadgets is that the buttons are too small for me to type accurately. and the visuals too small as well. And how can I listen to my favourite music on Youtube without my desktop computer?


    Tricia

    #1786236
    dantheman
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    My 3 and 4 year old grandsons have a problem with smartphones, they can’t login to them, that’s when they wave the iPad/iPhone/Windows/Android phone in my general direction and say, please Papi. After that they are straight onto youtube and pepper pig/fireman Sam/Paw patrol and a few others that they are limited to. They use their fingers without being taught, because they are using an intuitive interface that people have spent years developing.

    They can’t really read properly yet they have mastered the smart phone. What excuse do the Luddites have? Too old to change won’t cut it.


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