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  • #1817353
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    debra
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    I still think you’re wrong and the S1 trumps all :) (as your first paragraphs says, you have to benefit from your fees being ‘prise en charge’).


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    Chanceux
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    It may well do, maybe they are a changed organisation, the person who they told to send in the S1 document they may exempt on that exact ground but given their track record I would stick with the plain and simple and not open to interpretation, pension income in the right box = no payee!!

    The prise en charge des frais de santé does not (to me) mean who ultimately pays the piper be it the UK government via the S1 or the individual via Puma or employment cotisations it means will you be treated and the payments work there way through the system or will you have no rights and have to pay up front like an American tourist.

    Now everybody (in stable residence over 3 months) is covered whether they want to be or not and have to pay according to their means, they have created a social securité number for every person that they have sent an appel de cotisation to.

    Cette réforme parachève la logique de la couverture maladie universelle de base (CMU−b) qui visait à ouvrir des droits à l’assurance maladie aux personnes résidant en France de façon stable et régulière, et qui ne relevaient d’aucune couverture maladie obligatoire.


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    neil-r
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    I have just seen this in The Connexion:-

    https://www.connexionfrance.com/French-news/No-obligation-to-pay-contested-Puma-bills

    From what I see they say that if you have contested the bill and not paid you will not be fined.

    They also state that if you have an S1 you should not be liable anyway.  BUT that’s being said by a journalist and I have no idea what kind of expertise he/she has.

    Sadly I paid a couple of days ago!


    #1819874
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    parsnips
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    Hi,

    Here is a copy of a letter sent from URSAAF to a friend who complained about one of these,demands (which were issued in error)- he sent a copy of his S1:

    “Bonjour,

    J’accuse réception de votre mail du 21/12/2017 concernant l’assujettissement à la cotisation subsidiaire maladie (CSM).

    Au vu des justificatifs fournis et après nouvel examen de votre dossier, je vous informe qu’en tant que bénéficiaire de la

    prise en charge de vos frais de santé par un régime étranger, vous n’êtes pas redevable de la cotisation subsidiaire

    maladie pour l’année 2016.

    Je reste à votre disposition pour tout renseignement complémentaire.

    Cordialement.”

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     


    • This reply was modified 19 Jan 2018 18:15 by  parsnips.
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    neil-r
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    A friend of mine (in exactly the same circumstances as myself) has just received an ‘all clear’ from URSAFF.

    I have uploaded a copy to Google Docs and it is available for all to see:-

    https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cFgKsYjv1mYhG4uzSUsJ5v6e7qMGpPt9/view?usp=sharing

    I have still had no reply to two letters so  I’ll keep hoping.


    #1822225
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    Chanceux
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    I have had no replies either and am about to make the first formal appeal to the Commission de Recours Amiable which of course wont be responded to and they will deny having recieved it which stops dead any further appeal to the Tribunale.

    Even that is not simple because nowhere can I find an address for the CRA, logic says that I should send it to the URSAAF who made the demand marked CRA but I have a nagging feeling that is a trap that they want people to fall into so that it wont be recevable.

    I have been here too long perhaps but with all the K-rap I have had to suffer and hoop jumping recently just to open a new bank account (3 weeks to even get to see someone) and all the dirty tricks that have been played I have become very suspicious.

    One thing is for sure, the constant battling against incompetence and insouciance and downright appalling behaviour for even the most mundane things takes its toll.


    #1822240
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    neil-r
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    I made a mistake when I put the letter on Google Drive as it still showed a couple of identification details, so I’ve had to remove it.

    So I’ll rewrite the lines of interest:-

    Compte tenu des élémements que vous aveze aportés, je vous informe que vous n’étes pas redevable de cette cotisation.

    Je vous demande de ne pas tenir compte de l’apel de cotisation qui vous a été adressé.

    Je procéde a la fermature du compte qui a été ouvert dans notre organisme.

    Neil


    #1822242
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    We’ve yet to receive a reply to our request for this demand to be annulled either.  But it’s only 5 or 6 weeks since we wrote so I’m not going to follow it up yet.  I imagine they are a touch busy sorting it mistakes…


    #1822249
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    Chanceux
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    Not sure when you got your appel de cotisations but I only have another 5 days to raise my appeal officially, a couple more had I kept the envelope (will I ever learn!!)

    You only have 2 months to get the ball rolling or you (and I) are screwed, anything that we have sent before now is non recevable and deniable.


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