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    andyloakes
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    My UK neighbour is a qualified electrician. Will his qualifications allow him to legitimately rewire my house in France?

    Thanks

    Andy


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    Anyone can re wire a French property whether or not it conforms is another subject.


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    Assiduous compliance with NF C 15-100 will help.
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    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    Yes, in fact anyone can rewire a house in France.  It would be an advantage if they keep strictly to the French regs just in case it needs to pass an inspection at some point.  I have seen more than one French house done with UK spec cabling and sockets that won’t stand a chance in the event of an inspection or an insurance claim.


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    If you are paying him to do the work it would be worth researching the possible employment pitfalls.


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    Chanceux
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    €100 or so paid to Consuel for an inspection after the work will give you peace of mind and focus the attention of the sparky doing the work for you.

    It will also be uncontestible should some newly qualified diagnostiqeur or a buyer raise any false issues in the future.

    I would definitely recommend it.


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    As others have said, anyone can re-wire a French house, but unfortunately their qualifications count for nothing in obtaining a conformation that all is as it should be under the French regulations, there are numerous sources of information where the difference’s apply, I don’t have access to the bible at the moment, but I am sure Robert Arthur will be along shortly to guide you in the right direction.

    Mike

    Read this:

    Electricity Comparison of UK and France


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    Regardless of how, or even if you recompense him, work is work on that basis alone he cannot do anything for you unless he is properly registered in France, and as an electrician.

    Needless to say your own insurers would refuse to entertain any claims arising from any non lawful activity so should he have an accident whilst in your ’employ’ then you would be held personally liable for the consequences which, in case of a life changing injury or permanent disability, could extend to supporting him for the rest of his natural life. Equally if he injured somebody or damaged your property he would be personally liable.

    That may sound like OTT scaremongering but it’s true and I’m not saying what you envisage, or similar, isn’t going on every day of the week all over the country because I’m sure it will be.

    What I am saying is that is you’re going to step outside of the law then it’s crucial that you fully comprehend not only exactly what you are doing and the laws you are breaking but also the potential consequences of something going wrong, and that goes for both of you.

    In short then, it’s your decision to make but make it with your eyes open not closed !


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    Stepping outside the law? Food for thought this table (2014) from one of the annual Consuel reports. For the inspections to get a Consuel attestation the professional guys are there, but also many particuliers for the logements individuels. Compliance to the French electrical code is what counts, not being a registered electrician as is the case in Switzerland, Sweden, the UK and several other European countries. The Consuel website mentions also  today the so called attestations particuliers and the attestations professionnels. More in depth information by ENEDIS.


    RA

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    DominicBest
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    ANO’s comments were about employment law, not whether he was a recognised electrician or not.


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    My husband wired up our house and it got passed by the CONSUEL and then hooked up to the mains (we’d been on a temp supply for a year). However, he’s not a qualified electrician in any country and he wouldn’t do anyone else’s house…just in case. At the moment though, he laying and leveling a floor for a neighbour and said neighbour is repairing MOH’s very ancient motorbike. It’s called bartering, which again French law doesn’t really allow…but hey, if anyone complains we’ll argue the toss later.

    Just ensure your neighbour wires your house to French norms – there are various good books he can refer to, and of course, internet updates on norms which keep changing (I presume he can read French) plus…on here…if you are quick, there are a couple of excellent electricians who are registered in France and know their stuff.

    Just don’t pay your neighbour unless he’s registered here as a sparky and gives you a proper devis, and facture..


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    Swapping tasks with a neighbour is one thing Thomas but that’s not the situation I read. I think the electrician is his neighbour in the UK who would travel to France to carry out the work. If this was doing a favour for or helping a friend that’s one thing but being paid to do the rewire would involve the professional working in France and even if any payment is made in pounds in the UK the French tax man would want to be involved.


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