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    lesmartels
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    Location: 82 Tarn & Garonne
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    Hi,

    I am looking to purchase an electric heater for occasional use which is as economical to run as possible.  It will be used for a short period of time to boost the heat in the room with central heating or for a longer period of time in an unheated room.

    It is over 40 years since I purchased my present heater so it is probably very uneconomical now and as they have progressed considerably over the years, I feel there is something much better that I can buy.  I am not familiar with the different types and would only be confused by zealous salespeople, if there are any that is.

    Any suggestions or advice would be very welcome.

    Elizabeth


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    robertarthur
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    Location: Nièvre (58)
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    Progress has been made, indeed. Some constant factors remain however. One volt is still one volt, one amp is still one amp and one kilowatt (1000 W) is still 1 kilowatt. Another constant factor: sweet talking sales guys.

    Last week I visited not for the first time a brico shed. A totally innocent client was told that the new generation of electric heaters is three times more efficient than the heaters of before yesterday.

    Interested as I was, I listened  and asked a simple question: does this mean that when I get one kilowatt of energy from the EDF that I can produce three kilowatts of heating energy? Silence. I moved on to the next audience…

    Of course the new generation of panneaux rayonnants and radiateurs à inertie ou accumulation offers more comfort for permanent use

    But for occasional use go for something familiar likte this, no matter what mr. salesman tells you. Three switches: one for the blower, two for the separate heating elements of 750 W and 1250 W. So you can increase your heating power – both on – to 2000 W. And of course a thermostat.


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    vienne
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    Yes I agree with RA.

    I bought a version of one of these http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B016C04Z3E?psc=1 and at the moment it’s on a lot in lieu of the central heating. Just had an electric bill and my d/d has gone down so must be very economical.

    I’m sure they sell them on Amazon.fr but I don’t know what the French term is.

    John


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    robertarthur
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    French name: radiateur électrique à bain d’huile.  My pictures show the all-time classic air to air heater.


    RA

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    CelticRambler
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    And I agree with the two posts above, having made more or less the same point a few months ago. Electric heating is the very definition of inefficiency – you want to convert your current into “wasteful” heat, and the basic “two bar electric fire” is about as good as that gets. There’s not a lot more you can do to make it better, other than find a way to spread the heat around (or make it safer to leave on all night)


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    lesmartels
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    Thank you all for your prompt replies.

    It looks to  me as though the one suggested by Robert is going to fit the bill very nicely.  It certainly looks a lot better than the one I bought from Argos about 40 years ago and with the combination of heating buttons, it will fill all requirements.

    We do have an oil filled heater which we used in a  cold bathroom until CH was installed, so I will look at that and see what wattage it is.  I had not thought to check that one as I thought it was just a low powered bathroom heater.

    Thanks for all your suggestions.

    Elizabeth


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    beanz
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    Location: Haute-Vienne
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    Vienne – Does the timer on your oil-filled heater need to be reset everyday, or can it be programmed to come on and go off at the same time everyday like a central heating timer?


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    typhoo
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    Location: Creuse/Indre
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    Personally I don’t think you can beat the electric paraffin heaters, we have 2, they can be timed and use very little leccy – we buy the paraffin at the pump at our SuperU which is a lot cheaper than buying the bidons in-store.


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    beanz
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    I have a paraffin one downstairs in the corridor, but I was looking for a cheap oil-filled one for the upstairs landing, particularly the bathroom until I can get a proper bathroom one fitted. I don’t like the idea of a paraffin one being on when I’m nowhere near it!


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    madmanbob
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    Electric heaters do not give off any humidity, paraffin does, no comparison.


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    vic evans
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    If anyone is seeking to time &/or zone control electric heaters I can recommend The Otio gear.http://www.otio.com/ I have wireless relays built into adjacent heater flex outlet boxes & can zone the whole house this way. It’s worked fine for 3 heating seasons. The relays are stated to switch 2kw but The one I examined was rated at 3kw. Available at Brico sheds. circa 70 euros for 1 programeable remote & 3 relays. Extra relays available.


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