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    robertarthur
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    Sledge, it’s a jungle out there. I’ve been trying to decode the French Enigma machine for these eco and budget friendly messages, but we need a second Alan Turing for this I’m afraid. For every answer I manage to find I get two questions in return…..The French government steps forward to help the poor victims of bureaucracy offering them  step-by-step guidance, see this rather official looking website where you can test your éligibilité. 

    I also tried to pinpoint the 85-Vendée on the website of the Agence nationale de l’habitat (ANAH). Go to the menu item “operations programees” and check your region. Because they are somewhere in-between government policies/laws – funding – the clients. Let’s say the operational side of the money flow and giving the green light for projects. Try for yourself, but I only see the bigger projects, not the 1 euro scheme w’re talking about here.


    RA

    #1823195
    CelticRambler
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    Sounds like you’re getting that info directly from an installer who hasn’t the manpower to cover any more than a quarter of the country.

    Sorry, personpower. Musn’t discriminate! :wink:


    #1823217
    Aardvark
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    This kind of thing would still raise alarm bells even if it were all written in English.  Free lunch springs to mind.


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    labezarderie
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    I think that the scheme was trialled in 4 departments last year and has now been extended but whether or not it is nationwide I don’t know.  I linked into Pacte Energie to make my application.  I am sure that looking at their website would tell you more.  Or just google “isoler vos combles”.

    And Ardvark, you are completely wrong.

     


    #1823223
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    sledgehammer85
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    Thanks for your replies. Logic demands the scheme has to be rolled out countrywide, but when has French bureaucracy ever acted in a logical way? I think I’ll try calling EDF’s English speaking service tomorrow and see what they have to say about when we can expect 1€ insulation in the Vendée. Should be interesting ……….

    Sledge.


    Remember, you can't stop the waves, but you can learn to surf.

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    Chanceux
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    And Ardvark, you are completely wrong.

    Famous last words?


    #1823239
    Aardvark
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    I’m not saying I’m always right, but I haven’t yet had a freebie that didn’t turn out to have strings attached.

    B-)


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    labezarderie
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    Do you want to put money on this?


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    kizpip
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    Following the great deal for free/cheap bulbs from mesampoulesgratuit.com, I followed links to https://www.mescomblesgratuits.fr/isoler-mes-combles, offering free loft insulation. Have an appointment with a technician in a week or so but it was confirmed that, based on our income, it wouldn’t cost us anything :yahoo:   The company who will be carrying out the work (have googled them and they look legit) will be paid direct, by who I’m not sure…


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    Amazing how exxpensive something can be when it comes either free (proving that nothing is free in this life) or with a credit d’impôt.

    I did the simulation and my RFR was too high by €300 :cry: so I would have to pay 50% less a credit d’impôt but as I dont yet pay impôts sur le revenu that is of no interest.

    Anyway, half price is only €11 per M2 or €8.50 with a credit d’impot, given that the existing insulation they would be topping up if need be (20cm in one area 10cm in another) which with the UK system that does not line the pockets of the installers cost me from £1 to £5 per roll which IIRC covered 13.89m2 you can see once again where the money is going to.

    2nd suprise, doing the simulation a 2nd time it did not ask me for my RFR, OK they made me swear on my mothers life with the figure so they already have it, but now it says I am eligible for 100% subsidy saving me, wait for it, €44 per M2 :shock:

    Funny how the alleged price has now doubled :roll:

    The scheme will be successfull judging by all the people I have known over the years excitedly monter’ing un dossier at the end of the tax year to be able to pay 4-10 times the value of a service in order to get a small credit d’impôt.

    All the ones that I knew who greedily signed up for solar panels (the sun has not been seen in the intervening years!) are now paying out a fortune to avocats to pursue the companies which have already gone bust, they all were forced to sign up for loans which would allegedly be repaid 10 times by their energy savings even when they had the money under the blanket, they have no solar panels or climes (company ran off with their money) no credit d’impot because the job wasnt finished, or even started :cry: and they are stuffed with loan repayments at usurious rates for something they dont have plus their avocats fees.

    Me I prefer going to B&Q and loading up when its or it was 99p per roll, cut out all the middle men.

    I might fill out the form again and have a survey done, I wont feel bad if the salesman is as greedy and economic with the truth as I am expecting.


    #1823429
    robertarthur
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    Chanceux, although even the French press has to admit that because of the regulatory complexity this offers business opportunities for “cowboy” companies, the underlying state funded “1-euro” subvention scheme is real. There is a lack in transparency however, procedures, who applies for the funding etc. So think twice, read twice before signing anything. The same as it ever was, bank loan, mortgage, insurance, buying a second hand car etc.


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    wheelers
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    thanks for the earlier reply, we are looking to retire early in 2020 so would be main residence. the scheme seems as complicated as the UK version, we have applied in a couple of houses and both were refused, they tell you min 4″ or 100mm in our current house its had a loft conversion both rooms are cold but as there is no access to the roof void no one is willing to do the work.

    the French house has a big area and no insulation or felt under the tiles.so would probably look at sheetrock type insulation board with some insulation stuck to the board to keep a slight air gap between the board and tiles.


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    hookie
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    They are also doing a similar offer where you get 24 LED light bulbs for 1 Euro. Same conditions apply and we did this, choosing a selection of bulb fittings and a box arrived about 2 weeks later. Excellent initiative. We hope to be moving soon and I’ve already made an initial inquiry about getting the grenier insulated at the “new” house.They said just contact them when we move in….


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    humphrey
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    They did the job this morning – laid 28 rolls of 280mm. I had many forms to sign and paid them 1 Euro. I thought that they were only here to do a survey, so it was quite a surprise. :mail:


    #1824948
    robertarthur
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    Humphrey, all’s well that ends well, congratulations.


    RA

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