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    tomdenne
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    https://www.amazon.co.uk/GLSTouch-Kinetic-Self-Powered-Wireless-Receiver/dp/B01N2MYMBG/ref=sr_1_1?s=lighting&ie=UTF8&qid=1494274695&sr=8-1&keywords=GLS+touch+kinetic+switch

    Just fitted a set of these switches and am really pleased with them. Used three in a paneled dining room where chasing out for poussoirs would have been very difficult and destructive and then there would have been the hassle and expense of buying and wiring up a télérupteur. These switches were ridiculously easy to fit and they are really elegant, well made and function with a solidly satisfying click. No batteries required either.

    :grin: GLStouch delivered to France quite quickly at a reasonable cost so now I’m a very happy bunny.


    Tom

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    CelticRambler
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    Black magic, if you ask me! :shock:

    A quick bit of googling doesn’t (yet) give me an explanation as to how that works. Where’s the switch getting its kinetic energy from, to send a meaningful signal to the box? Is it just some kind of piezo unit coupled with a wi-fi transmitter? :unsure:


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    tomdenne
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    Dunno how they work but they certainly do! Saw something similar in BD a few years ago but the switches were a chunky ugly grey, looked really cheap and you had to load them up with batteries. Still, it did seem to be a good idea and now it has been perfected.


    Tom

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    Chanceux
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    As the switch is presumably fixed to a non moving wall in a non earthquake zone the alleged kinetic energy can only be generated by the action of pushing the switch.

    If they really do work as well as they claim I can see some exciting derivatives hitting the market, I for one would like a low cost cordless door chime (dont mind fitting the little 12v cell to that every couple of years) that will operate several remote mains powered chimes or buzzers.

    The price point seems good in terms of the labour charges or destruction of decoration that they avoid.


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    Dunno how they work but they certainly do! Saw something similar in BD a few years ago but the switches were a chunky ugly grey, looked really cheap and you had to load them up with batteries. Still, it did seem to be a good idea and now it has been perfected.

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    Tom

    Battery powered ones have been available for decades. These switches are not a perfection of that but a new technology that does not appear to need a battery.


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    badger
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    I fitted a cordless door bell (from LM, made by Thomson AFAIR) for someone recently, which had a kinetic switch. Great idea.

    Is it just some kind of piezo unit coupled with a wi-fi transmitter?

    Exactly that.


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    Clever guys!

    Seemingly no longer a piezo operation to reduce the operating force, presumably now less than 357 grammes.


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    vic evans
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    I fitted a cordless door bell (from LM, made by Thomson AFAIR) for someone recently, which had a kinetic switch. Great idea.

    Still doesn’t get over the main problem with these things which is that the batteries in the indoor bell bit are always ‘on’ to power the receiver ‘cos the thing is always awaiting a signal from the door push button which conversely only requires power for a split second when ‘pushed’.

    I change the receiver batteries on ours quite often whereas I can’t remember the last time I changed the sender battery.

     


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    Thats my problem also, I have found some ones with a plug in base station both in France and the UK (try Amazon) search term “sans fil secteur” or thereabouts, my problem now is to find ones that have selectable channels or where all they sell are on the same channel so I can have several chimes spread across the place because I can be working in many different areas, a pager is getting cumbersome and will remind me of the bad old days.

    I used to hate changing the batteries on average every couple of months, a waste of resources plus often I would not know they were flat and customers would be standing at the gate.

    Here is just one:

    https://www.amazon.fr/Lloytron-B7505BK-32-m%C3%A9lodie-Secteur-Carillon/dp/B00ITTBD6O/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1494332743&sr=8-5&keywords=carillon+sans+fil+secteur

    Being sent out from the UK its likely to have a UKplug, several French sellers also neglect to mention that, most of us will have adaptors though.


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    badger
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    Still doesn’t get over the main problem with these things which is that the batteries in the indoor bell bit are always ‘on’….

    The doorbell I mentioned plugs into the mains & you can move it around to suit your habits i.e. never any batteries to change.


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    vic evans
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    Still doesn’t get over the main problem with these things which is that the batteries in the indoor bell bit are always ‘on’….

    The doorbell I mentioned plugs into the mains & you can move it around to suit your habits i.e. never any batteries to change.

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    Righty Oh!  When you said ‘cordless’ I assumed no mains power.

    I’ve investigated the plug in receiver jobbies but unfortunately as well as the lounge I need a ‘ bell’ in the kitchen which is two very thick stone wall away from the front door bell push. The only ‘line of sight’ place I can position a receiver unit is on top of the built in fridge/freezer unit so I’d need to wire in a socket there or lash up an extention lead up the back of the unit.


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    badger
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    The unit I used did not need line of sight…..


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    vic evans
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    The unit I used did not need line of sight…..

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    Neither does the unit I’ve used but it does cough on anything but full batteries when asked to transmit through two thick stone walls hence my line of sight comment.

    I’ve got it set up where the transmitter push button almost has a line of site through a french door between the front door & kitchen which is the only way it’ll work. In it’s defence it was only a cheapo Lidl/Aldi job & works fine when asked to transmit through one stone wall .

    Thanks for the info. I’ll give it  Google to see what I can find.


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    badger
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    http://thomsonsecurity.eu/infos.php?pfc_id=96


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