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    chrisell
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    So this is one of those jobs I’ll get round to eventually but back story first …. the main bedrooms/bathroom having been ripped back to their bare bones we’ve no lights on that floor – add to the joy our place was wired “ad hoc” in the past and the wires I ripped out included the power to the hall lights downstairs (and some how half the lounge no longer has power either …..) – you can either puzzle out where the **** is that going or just cut stuff – I’m at the just cut stuff stage now it all needs fixing anyhow. End result not a light on the stairs – which is fine its renovation live with it. But at 4am Did make me think as I picked my way step by step for what felt like an age from the top floor in the dark – this’d be fun if the place was on fire – although if the place was on fire I’d have had more light. Add to that my Incoming Electric and thus the tableau are on the stair return so in the worst place when power trips.

    But end result – made me think emergency light – there’s obviously the really ugly ones quite cheap – but anyone know if there’s “kits” to convert a normal light into an emergency light. I don’t even need it switchable – its just a battery pack and detector – it’ll be within 1.5 metres of the tableau – either just looping one unswitched lighting circuit via it or running a simple 2A “fused” feed direct. And yes – the lighting circuits are split between the RCDs or will be when I put them back in – so in most cases ground or first floor would have light if a trip went.

    One of those – if I can knock it for a tenner – means power cuts/trips I have light where I need it – enough to see a way down the stairs but also a light on the tableau which would help beyond just resetting a trip. And I always end up at the opposite end of the house to phones, lighters or torches when the power goes off. If anyones had the same thought and done the research …..


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    mikej
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    I have one of these above the CU (tableau):

    https://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/LTDL3NM.html

    its green whilst it has power from the mains and comes on bright white when a power cut happens, its close to a beam so can’t be seen when in standby mode.

    Mike


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    chrisell
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    That’s very close – cheers


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    DominicBest
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    I’ve got a great thing that I bought in Castorama for about €15. To all intents an purposes it’s a rechargeable torch with the choice of a 3 LED beam or a 21 LED light but when it’s plugged into the mains and switched on it acts as an emergency light. When the power is cut it switches on.


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    kathyc
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    I’ve got a great thing that I bought in Castorama for about €15. To all intents an purposes it’s a rechargeable torch with the choice of a 3 LED beam or a 21 LED light but when it’s plugged into the mains and switched on it acts as an emergency light. When the power is cut it switches on.

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    I’ve got that sort of thing but I’ve also got battery operated, movement sensor lights on the stairs, bought in a pack of 3 from Amazon.


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    I have one of these above the CU (tableau):

    Thanks mikej – I’ve ordered one for the new staircase.


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    Too late if you have ordered already, but I have several of these. One at each Tableau and one on each staircase. They automatically light upon power failure and the centre is Débrochable for use as a hand torch.
    https://www.legrand.fr/pro/catalogue/35317-lampe-autonome-debrochable/lampe-autonome-debrochable-celiane&gt;


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    Thanks le-dolly.

    Yes already purchased. My wife is visiting sisters around Bristol where there is a TLC-Direct outlet so she looked in. These work out cheaper but, if I had had to pay for delivery here, they would have been the more expensive.

    At the tableau, and other places where you might not want to put the full lighting on (or there isn’t any) I use those torch/lamp and holders sold by Lidl and Aldi and they work fine but they do need  a power socket.


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    kathyc
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    Thanks le-dolly. Yes already purchased. My wife is visiting sisters around Bristol where there is a TLC-Direct outlet so she looked in. These work out cheaper but, if I had had to pay for delivery here, they would have been the more expensive. At the tableau, and other places where you might not want to put the full lighting on (or there isn’t any) I use those torch/lamp and holders sold by Lidl and Aldi and they work fine but they do need a power socket.

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    They don’t need a power socket next to the tableau though – in fact, if your tableau is in the sous sol or similar, you’re going to need to use a torch to get there just as much as you need the light to see what’s going on.


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    They don’t need a power socket next to the tableau though

    They might not need one but I have put one in. It is on a dedicated 20A circuit so that I can terminate every other circuit and run an extension lead from it to whatever I’m working. The 20A can support a couple of bits of kit and site lights.

    Tableau is in the heart of the house in the new kitchen.

     


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    Thanks – not sure I want to put more holes in the ceiling ….. its spit and hope holding the hall ceiling together (pulling gaine through the ceiling last week led to a 10″ hole) – but thanks it should be the ideal solution- I may be able to make it work – but suggests at the very least I look a bit harder than I had. Even just to cannibalise its possibly cheaper and quicker than the other options – swap out the downlight for a basic cheap LED cluster.

    Torches – yes and no – yes they’re great and will be getting one – but given I put things down where I last used them and my partner “tidies” things – like a squirrel and its nuts she’s no idea where she tidied things to ….. so a torch – it wouldn’t be where its meant to be – we’d need a power cut to find it – although it may explain where a box of old singles – umpteen screwdrivers – my small angle grinder – 3 sets of swimming trunks – a box of plumbing bits and everything else that’s been tidied in the last 18 months ended up. But the plan was to have one on charge elsewhere as a general purpose torch


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    Too late now but I use a 5200mAh mobile phone battery ‘brick’ with a pair of bendy USB lights intended to illuminate a keyboard, with both plugged in it runs for some 10 hours !


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    In the same vein, I bought a couple of rechargeable LED lights from Ebay. £8 each? Less as emergency, “find-the-tableau” lights, more to allow us to read till the power comes back on. I top them up every two months or so.

    Never thought to use the  battery brick to extend their life – great idea. Thanks for that, AnOther

     

    Cheers


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