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    mysty2
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    This is meant to be true but will check it out. Its meant to have been reported on Reuters.

    In one sign of a concession from Brussels, the resolution states that British citizens living in an EU state on Brexit Day, March 29, 2019, would retain their “right … to reside and move freely in the whole EU”. Previously, the EU had said their residence rights might only be guaranteed in the particular member state in which they were living at the time.


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    fittersmate
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    Pardon me but, I do not see this as a “concession”

    <span class=”dt “>something conceded or granted:</span>
    <span class=”sn”>a</span> <span class=”dt “><strong class=”mw_t_bc”>: acknowledgmentadmission</span>
    <span class=”sn”>b</span> <span class=”dt “><strong class=”mw_t_bc”>: something done or agreed to usually grudgingly in order to reach an agreement or improve a situation</span>

    An acknowledgement of previous rights, maybe, but a concession – no.

    And it’s another piecrust promise – easily broken.


    • This reply was modified 07 Dec 2017 19:13 by  fittersmate.
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    It does appear to look promising, thanks dan my computer locked up but found the article.


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    This is meant to be true but will check it out. Its meant to have been reported on Reuters. In one sign of a concession from Brussels, the resolution states that British citizens living in an EU state on Brexit Day, March 29, 2019, would retain their “right … to reside and move freely in the whole EU”. Previously, the EU had said their residence rights might only be guaranteed in the particular member state in which they were living at the time.

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    That would be great news for me personally and a triumph over the nasty Brexit people. Fingers crossed.


    • This reply was modified 07 Dec 2017 22:12 by  Bluebird.
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    If true it is indeed good news for us but spare a thought for those back in the UK who didn’t want Brexit who will now be denied the opportunity to live, work or retire to another EU country on the terms we have. For those who voted Brexit that is another matter, they deserve nothing less than being confined to the UK.


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    5. Under the caveat that nothing is agreed until everything is agreed, the joint commitments set out below in this joint report shall be reflected in the Withdrawal Agreement in full detail. This does not prejudge any adaptations that might be appropriate in case transitional arrangements were to be agreed in the second phase of the negotiations, and is without prejudice to discussions on the framework of the future relationship.

    From the published document this morning….“adaptations”?

    https://ec.europa.eu/commission/publications/joint-report-negotiators-european-union-and-united-kingdom-government-progress-during-phase-1-negotiations-under-article-50-teu-united-kingdoms-orderly-withdrawal-european-union_en


    • This reply was modified 08 Dec 2017 08:23 by  icey.
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    Does this mean there will be a flood of Brits buying houses over here?


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    I see Farage and UKIP are not happy with what has been agreed overnight, so good news for everyone else then. :good:


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    fittersmate
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    The whole agreement here:-

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/12/08/brexit-divorce-deal-agreement-full-read-report-published-phase/

    But – nothing is agreed until everything is agreed :unsure:


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    From the Good Friday agreement

    Irrespective of Northern Ireland’s constitutional status within the United Kingdom, or part of a united Ireland, the right of “the people of Northern Ireland” to “identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both” (as well as their right to hold either or both British and/or Irish citizenship) was recognised. By the words “people of Northern Ireland” the Agreement meant “all persons born in Northern Ireland and having, at the time of their birth, at least one parent who is a British citizen, an Irish citizen or is otherwise entitled to reside in Northern Ireland without any restriction on their period of residence.”

     

    The UK/EU agreement states that NI citizens retain their EU citizenship. The Good Friday agreement implies that all UK citizens are entitled to reside in NI. Logical conclusion, all UK citizens keep EU citizenship.

     

     

     

     


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    From the Good Friday agreement

    Irrespective of Northern Ireland’s constitutional status within the United Kingdom, or part of a united Ireland, the right of “the people of Northern Ireland” to “identify themselves and be accepted as Irish or British, or both” (as well as their right to hold either or both British and/or Irish citizenship) was recognised. By the words “people of Northern Ireland” the Agreement meant “all persons born in Northern Ireland and having, at the time of their birth, at least one parent who is a British citizen, an Irish citizen <strong class=”d4pbbc-bold”>or is otherwise entitled to reside in Northern Ireland without any restriction on their period of residence.”

    The UK/EU agreement states that NI citizens retain their EU citizenship. The Good Friday agreement implies that all UK citizens are entitled to reside in NI. Logical conclusion, all UK citizens keep EU citizenship.

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    Thankyou Arlene for taking back control.
    It had become a complete shambles!


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    But – nothing is agreed until everything is agreed

    In the absence of agreed solutions, the United Kingdom will maintain full alignment with those rules of the Internal Market and the Customs Union which, now or in the future, support North-South cooperation, the allisland economy and the protection of the 1998 Agreement.

    If nothing is agreed, the UK agrees that GB will not diverge from NI, which will remain aligned with the RoI/EU.

    Theresa’s decided that GB should be part of the new United Ireland! :mrgreen:


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    ‘6. The overall objective of the Withdrawal Agreement with respect to citizens’ rights is to provide reciprocal protection for Union and UK citizens, to enable the effective exercise of rights derived from Union law and based on past life choices, where those citizens have exercised free movement rights by the specified date. 7. To date, both Parties have reached a common understanding on the following.1

    8. The specified date should be the time of the UK’s withdrawal.’

    Interesting that the document refers to the ‘time of the UK’s withdrawal’ rather than inserting a specified date.  If the date is ’29 March 2019′ why didn’t the document record that?

    Any ideas ??


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