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    normally
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    To save you the bother of researching:

    From Wikipedia

    “Kipper”, a supporter of UKIP, a British populist political party


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    #1720646
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    Kipper”, a supporter of UKIP, a British populist political party

    I googled it and came up with this..

    http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/02697/alex-salmond_2697577b.jpg

    It looks like some kind of fish. I am guessing it is a kipper.


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    • This reply was modified 29 May 2016 17:38 by  Kylo Ren.
    #1720854
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    Apoarantly the Brexit people are now going to scrap VAT on fuel.

     

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-eu-referendum-36414761

     

    How many times do they think they can spend that £ 350 million ( which isn’t £350 million)?


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    #1720894
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    It is not looking good for Europe even if you vote in.

     

    http://s.telegraph.co.uk/graphics/projects/europe-ref-fed-up-vote/index.html


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    #1720918
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    I watched a recording of the debate that was on last week. Brexiteers: “It’s not about immigration but…”

    Aye, you’re no a racist but…


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    #1720921
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    The scots have got it right on threatening immigrants trying to land.
    At scapa flow the jerries in lifeboats trying to escape drowning were shot.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttling_of_the_German_fleet_in_Scapa_Flow


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    Aye, you’re no a racist but…

    No we are not racist.

    Is this the the Brit  ‘in’ camps last desperate attempt to bully voters. Vote ‘out’ and you are a right wing facist bast&rd UKIP voter. Yawn.  :bye: I think most voting ‘out’ are the complete opposite.

    Life is getting desperate for the ‘in’ voters.


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    On what basis do you suggest that those voting out ( immigration is the number one issue for Brexit voters) are completely the opposite to racists? You have made a statement. Back it up.


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    A lot in of people in Europe just want a change in world order.

    Google it.


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    And even more do not. You still havn’t backed up your statement. The facts are that most people in the UK who want to leave the EU want to do so because they have an issue with immigration.


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    And even more do not. You still havn’t backed up your statement. The facts are that most people in the UK who want to leave the EU want to do so because they have an issue with immigration.

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    Dreaming the life.

    On what basis do you suggest that those voting out ( immigration is the number one issue for Brexit voters) are completely the opposite to racists? You have made a statement. Back it up.

    A very strange POV, and it means: what?

    If you have an opinion on immigration you are racist?

    Or most people who want to remain in the EU do not care about immigration?

    If you want the UK to leave the EU you must be racist?

    If you wand to remain in the EU you cannot be racist?

    If you could clear this up, I would be grateful, thanks andy.

     


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    <p abp=”901″>And even more do not. You still havn’t backed up your statement. The facts are that most people in the UK who want to leave the EU want to do so because they have an issue with immigration.

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    <p abp=”904″>Dreaming the life.

    On what basis do you suggest that those voting out ( immigration is the number one issue for Brexit voters) are completely the opposite to racists? You have made a statement. Back it up.

    <p abp=”907″>A very strange POV, and it means: what?

    <p abp=”908″>If you have an opinion on immigration you are racist?

    <p abp=”909″>Or most people who want to remain in the EU do not care about immigration?

    <p abp=”910″>If you want the UK to leave the EU you must be racist?

    <p abp=”911″>If you wand to remain in the EU you cannot be racist?

    <p abp=”912″>If you could clear this up, I would be grateful, thanks andy.

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    georgej
    Your analytical criticism of andy72’s succinct eloquence is blatant racism.


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    And even more do not. You still havn’t backed up your statement. The facts are that most people in the UK who want to leave the EU want to do so because they have an issue with immigration.

    <hr /> Dreaming the life.
    On what basis do you suggest that those voting out ( immigration is the number one issue for Brexit voters) are completely the opposite to racists? You have made a statement. Back it up.

    A very strange POV, and it means: what? If you have an opinion on immigration you are racist? Or most people who want to remain in the EU do not care about immigration? If you want the UK to leave the EU you must be racist? If you wand to remain in the EU you cannot be racist? If you could clear this up, I would be grateful, thanks andy.

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    1. The op states those voting out are ” completely opposite to racists”. Being completely opposite to racism would mean having an attitude to foreigners that was not compatable with agreeing with the Leave campaign position on immigration.
    2. Those wanting to remain will consider other factors more important than immigration
    3. If you want the UK to leave the EU you may be racist, you may be anti establishment, you may be influenced by newspaper headlines, you may be economically illiterate amongst other factors. Unlike the op I am unable to say with any certainty although polls suggest that immigration fears, tabloid readership and a lower level of education are common factors.

    Hope that clears it up for you.

     


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    Can feel a compatability flush coming on!
    Must be my innate ability to compatate!

    That’s it.


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    The scots have got it right on threatening immigrants trying to land. At scapa flow the jerries in lifeboats trying to escape drowning were shot. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scuttling_of_the_German_fleet_in_Scapa_Flow

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    The Wikipedia article doesn’t say that at all: of the original 20,000 crew at Scapa Flow, and nearly 5,000 at the time of the scuttling of the fleet, there were just nine men killed in lifeboats – and it’s not at all clear why. They may have been attempting to escape, rather than attempting to escape drowning.

    And if they were at risk of drowning it was because they had (I’d say dishonourably) scuttled their own fleet.

    They weren’t allowed dentists, though.


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