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    chris-le-bricoleur
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    … internal wall that got partially demolished was only 35cm wide. I have never seen a wall built of old stone that thin in France.

    You’re right, mysty2, the internal walls from old stone are normally 60cm thick (or more). Some of our internal walls were brick, but that’s a different story.
    I’m curious to see and read the progress of your project!
    And of course you know: One picture … nnd words.


    Christian - bricoleur par passion, pas par necessité http://www.klussen-in-frankrijk.eu/

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    loopski
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    A load bearing wall will be 60 cm or more.
    A non load bearing wall will not, a thickness of around 40 cms or less.


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    A load bearing wall will be 60 cm or more.
    A non load bearing wall will not, a thickness of around 40 cms or less.

    Regardless of type of material used, ie stone, breezeblock etc? The floor beams were sitting on the thin internal wall so they must have used all their money on the fancy stone outside and scrimped on the internal wall a 100 years ago :grin:


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    penpro
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    Wonderwoman are you being alittlebit silly I wonder.

    Well spotted…and booted already! :eek:

    Looking forward to following this. Bonne Chance !

    P


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    You know what penpro, (off topic) the days of a good sock-puppet, WUM/PBU are long gone. A good ‘un signs up and lurks for a while, “getting the measure of folks” and first post is usually along those lines. Still, as Scarlett O Hara says “Tomorrow is another day”.

    Anyway, back ON TOPIC, love these photos Mysty & Icey, jury is still out on if you are brave or bonkers :lol:


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    loopski
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    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>loopski wrote:</div>I
    A load bearing wall will be 60 cm or more.
    A non load bearing wall will not, a thickness of around 40 cms or less.

    Regardless of type of material used, ie stone, breezeblock etc? The floor beams were sitting on the thin internal wall so they must have used all their money on the fancy stone outside and scrimped on the internal wall a 100 years ago :grin:

    No scrimping a load bearing wall is one which supports the Charpente, solives are accessory like 6″ nails supporting pictures. If the solives are all supported on the dividing wall then they are smaller; in all probability the solives on the other side are paralell to the dividing wall with the wall snuggled up against it.


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    As Icey said, load bearing capacity is according to the density and stability of the material, not its thickness.

    Mike


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    Thanks for the input Loopski and Mike, makes it an interesting thread when things such as this come up. The joists on the other side of the wall run the same way as in the larger room Loopski, supporting the floor on the other side too and not parallel to the wall, nothing to snuggle up to anywhere sadly :smile: .


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    Hendrixfans
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    Why is this thread highlighted in yellow in the Active Topics list?


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    Char
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    Why is this thread highlighted in yellow in the Active Topics list?

    Because I was asked to make it into a sticky and sticky threads show up in yellow for some reason.


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    Hendrixfans
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    Oh OK, thanks. :smile:


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    loopski
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    Internal walls are in old french stone built houses are only 60cms thick if they have been initially external load bearing and the house has later been extended.
    A longere is a good example.


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    mysty2
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    Early start this morning, 8am EDF came to switch us on but the power was on anyway. Water board arrived and fitted a new meter but we have a small sort of lake for water for the building work. levelled out the front room, plastic sheeting down, then wire sheeting to stop the floor from cracking, a couple of bits of wood to make sure the floor would be level, 2 oclock the cement lorry man phones to say he cannot find us went out and found him 3.45 floor finished ready for tiling. 50 sqm of liquid concrete much easier than mixing it yourself. Its still hard work and im a bit stiff tonight but just one more days work till its pay day, well for the builder anyway it will be next year before I earn anything. :cry:

    This is what it looked like before all the good tiles have been saved.


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    Love this thread !


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    Love this thread !

    Still not doing your house :grin:


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