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    nifty
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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/16/no-return-to-irish-border-posts-uk-insists-in-brexit-plan


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    b33jay
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    So where is a ‘United Ireland’ mentioned?  A misleading thread header perhaps?


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    pommehomme
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    What, with the DUP propping up a weak tory government? You’d have to be a martian to believe that to be anything but a fantasy!


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    nifty
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    The way that governments are headed at the mo that seems to be a prerequisite.


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    jbc
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    There is NO way that EIRE would take the six counties.!The “troubles” would begin all over again but in the opposite direction.


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    roadrat
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    Although as an outsider it is the only solution from a strickly Brexit point of view.  Do any of the nuts in government care if the troubles kick off again?


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    pommehomme
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    I bet the DUP ‘nuts’ do!


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    roadrat
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    I bet the DUP ‘nuts’ do!

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    Yet they supported, were even instrumental in Brexit  :wacko:


    #1791571
    jsks
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    Although as an outsider it is the only solution from a strickly Brexit point of view. Do any of the nuts in government care if the troubles kick off again?

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    The nuts in government care not for much of the mainland population, whyever would they give a monkey’s toss about the Province in which over 60% of the voters oppose Brexit?

    #1791572
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    Should Ireland reunite it is clear that the Republic cannot afford to subsidise the North in the way it is currently subsidised by Westminster unless the EU steps in to underwrite reunification.

    But regardless of the financial arguments the hardcore so-called Loyalists will ensure that any such transition to a politically unified island would be plagued by dissent and disruption.  You only need look back over the bile spewed on this forum by a member who drifts in and out to see the mountain of moronity that needs to be climbed.

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    fittersmate
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    Here’s an opinion on a hard/soft Irish border from Martina Anderson, MEP and where exactly to put it.


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    pommehomme
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    But mainland UK wouldn’t want it. Putting aside the risk of the Troubles re-emerging in the north, the alternative prospect of boatloads of Irish Protestants heading east across the Irish Sea, looking for new homes on the mainland, would fill Little Britain with horror. It would be like a homegrown version of the partition of India. For the mainland Brits, it would make the prospect of African immigrants, crossing the Mediterranean and travelling up through Europe to the UK, simply pale into insignificance. That’s at least one good reason that the Tory/DUP government wouldn’t dare go down that road.


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    nifty
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    http://martinamep.eu

     


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    loopski
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    When the sun manages to fight it’s way past martina’s sphincter it’ll all be bright and beautiful.


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    fittersmate
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    “When the sun manages to fight it’s way past martina’s sphincter it’ll all be bright and beautiful.”

    But – You have to admit that you know exactly where you stand with her.

    Not strong and stable etc – just – stick your hard border up your a*se ’cause we won’t have it.

    End of.


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