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    robertarthur
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    What about those dedicated circuits – circuits specialisés – after the publication of the so called Amendement 5 of the French electrical code? Do you remember, government promises about simplifications in construction and wiring regulations? Less dedicated circuits? I’m afraid not: at least one more, six sockets for the kitchen (2.5 mm²). The usual suspects line-up.


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    robertarthur
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    An update is available of “L’installation électrique”, now in it’s fifth edition. Including Amendement 5 and several later updates of the wiring regulations.


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    robertarthur
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    Hager seems to be rather impressed by the page flipping effect of e-books and marketing flyers. Their standard pdf format intro to the French electrical code is not a direct link anymore and has been replaced by this one.  The pdf version is still available on demand,  go to the menu bar and click: Centre de téléchargement and follow instructions (email address).


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    robertarthur
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    About three-phase distribution boards: this is a nice example of such a tableau électrique triphasé.  With the introduction of Amendement 5 things have changed  a little bit. There are stricter regs for how many MCBs you can connect to one RCD and the maximum allowable load neccisitates more 63 amp RCDs than in the past (40 amp). Only one three-phase RCD to protect everything in a “mixed” distribution board (single-phase  + three-phase equipment) is no longer allowed.

    And a new recommendation, to place three-phase RCDs and MCBs upfront, en tête d’installation.  To quote “L’Officiel de l’electricité” by Promotelec: “Concernant les équipements nécessistant une alimentation triphasée (par exemple une pompe), nous recommandons de les connecter le plus en tête possible de l’installation , en regroupant leurs circuits respectifs sous un (eventuellement plusieurs) dispositif(s) différentiel(s) tétrapolaire(s) (3 phases + neutre).

    And then you get something like this, a quick draft (without earth wiring).


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    robertarthur
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    Time to say goodbye and move on after eight very educational years here on this forum. Thanks Charlotte, Jonathan Badger, Electrician22, Matt Viles, Tomdenne, Sledge, Mike, Misty2, Hal, Bentley and everybody else. Time also for an after-sales service for those landing on this forum after the announced shut down March 26th 2018. Not a total surprise, several useful links for the French electrical code NF C 15-100, might even be of interest for some belonging to the core audience of international property buyers, the target group of FrenchEntree from now on.

    Waiting for the summer and continuing to answer questions on other forums,

    Regards,

    Robert


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    napoleon
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    I must thank you, Robert, for all the posts you have made giving such useful advice over the years. There must be many members who feel the same. It is good to be able to refer to references and direct information which has made my life much easier.

    I will undoubtedly be following you on other forums, one of which we are already members.

    Thanks,  Alistair


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    I agree, Roberts posts have always been polite and informative, a real gentleman, for those reading this in the future a new French Forum has been started here:

    http://www.newfrenchforum.com/index.php

    Mike


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    Hal
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    I must thank you, Robert, for all the posts you have made giving such useful advice over the years. There must be many members who feel the same. It is good to be able to refer to references and direct information which has made my life much easier. I will undoubtedly be following you on other forums, one of which we are already members. Thanks, Alistair

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    Yep, second that Robert! I am not sure if the new forum will be pulling across any stickies, probably not, but for me I am not worried as I copied all your schematics as you posted them!

    Louise left her job with the you-know-who and moved to another family, so I never did get the chance to visit you in Pays Bas, but you never know – maybe still on one day. T’other day I bought a little Skoda Pick Up in perfect nick etc, from Utrecht and had it shipped down. Almightly problems registering it here as I needed the little card you guys have, but RTW would not give me one as I am not resident, so I ended up in a Catch 22 – I nearly called you to see if there is a dark circle in Amsterdam who could make me a card! In the end I bought an old rusty Pick Up here for a couple of hundred Euros and swapped the VIN plates over!

     

     

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    robertarthur
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    Hal, there used to be a French website by the name of Entraidelec.  Loads of info about the French electrical code. Two years ago a total crash, no good backup, relying on a private herbergeur, never rose from the ashes, went on rather crippled for several months. And then the curtain fell. A pity, many diagrams, much nicer than my old school quick drafts. Everything down the drain? No, thanks to the memory function of Big Brother websites of long ago  can still be visited. Much of the content of Entraidelec – several missing diagrams – can still be found on the website of web.archive.org .  To give you an example for one of your questions years ago this one about connecting two chauffe-eaux.  Searching is not very fast, but it is helpful to know that not everything is lost.


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    What an opportune post, I am just about to put an extra chauffe-eaux in my loft to speed up the hot water to the bathroom immediately below, the main Chauffe-eaux is on the ground floor at the other end of the building, I don’t have the overnight tariff, but control the tank by a timer, if you remember this was my main problem with tripping out, cured by the overnight timer, I will put the new Chauffe-eaux on one as well, timed to go on when the other is off.

    Mike


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