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    lindal1000
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    There were a couple of requests for comments that came round several social media groups and one group, that now has 5000 members did write a formal response to several comments. That might be the group you mean. So I had the opportunity to participate :grin:

    At least the French government are bothering to think about us, unlike the British government, that seems content to use us a bargaining chips!


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    violet
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    Skim read the article …..very interesting ….it is as you say a great pity the UK government does not give us the same consideration

    It’s all very well saying she will not be giving anyone a blow by blow account of deliberations, but surely she should at least be able to discuss options with the rest of the EU not to mention us ex pats!  It is interesting to see the mention in the article of Mr Cameron’s unfulfilled promise to give all ex pats living in EU countries the right to vote even if they had left the UK prior to the 15 year cut off date.

    Sadly we, or rather the UK government are seen as a somewhat disorganised rabble and a laughing stock ….people’s lives ?  what do they matter ?  much more interesting to discuss Mdm May’s footwear ! :-(


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    pommehomme
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    Surely, violet, you don’t expect someone who treats Parliament with abject disregard to have any regard or consideration for British nationals, particularly those who are so unpatriotic as to live abroad. No, I’m sure her position is that if we want a vote we should ‘return to blighty’, in order to be flushed down the pan with those who have decided to stay put – all set to the musical background of her repeatedly singing the final verse of ‘The Mermaid’ (look it up).


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    Bluebird
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    I’m afraid it’s patience or a reliable crystal ball, Bluebird. But if you’ve the latter, please do share with us the information that it provides. There are a lot us us who’d like to know where we’ll stand in the near future!

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    Thanks for the reply. Unfortunately I don’t have aforementioned crystal ball. The only thing I would predict, based on current performance, the UK government buffoons presiding over the Brexit debacle are likely to ensure a damaging outcome for all concerned.


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    pommehomme
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    Yes, and what’s the betting that they’ll ensure that the British people will have no practical method of expressing their disatisfaction until May 2020 – by which time it’s probable that the damage will have been done and be irreversible. Oh, the delights of executive government!


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    roadrat
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    Now May is giving away immigration rights to India in return for trade agreements. Who does trade to India benefit?

    Lovely I’m sure for big business, but with average shipping cost of parcels to India costing 10 times that for Europe, not much for anyone else. As for services, I don’t know of any IT experts who will want to work for a quid an hour.


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    Now May is giving away immigration rights to India in return for trade agreements. Who does trade to India benefit? Lovely I’m sure for big business, but with average shipping cost of parcels to India costing 10 times that for Europe, not much for anyone else. As for services, I don’t know of any IT experts who will want to work for a quid an hour.

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    I wasn’t aware that this was happening, but it wouldn’t be a surprise. If, as the current approach seems to indicate, the UK Government are pursuing the ‘our way or the highway’ approach to Brexit, they will have been banking on alternative trade arrangements to plug the gaps in the economy. Safe to assume the harder the Brexit  the more the UK will yield to secure other trade agreements. Isn’t it ironic that the best hand the UK has to play, is probably relaxation of immigration to non EU nationals…..


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    I read earlier today that the price of the notional British shopping basket has gone up by 5.7%, mainly because the suppliers of goods sourced from EU producers don’t see why they should have to bear the cost of Britain’s isolationism. It looks like the English will have to start growing their own mushrooms instead of importing them from Ireland and Poland.

    I wonder who’ll pick and pack them when all those job-stealing immigrants have been kicked out … ?


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    I read earlier today that the price of the notional British shopping basket has gone up by 5.7%, mainly because the suppliers of goods sourced from EU producers don’t see why they should have to bear the cost of Britain’s isolationism. It looks like the English will have to start growing their own mushrooms instead of importing them from Ireland and Poland. I wonder who’ll pick and pack them when all those job-stealing immigrants have been kicked out … ?

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    My son tells me that his fellow students in the UK are starting to notice price rises in essentials since the vote and are less than happy. But is the triple lock on pensions a first major financial casualty of Brexit, I really really hope so.


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    I wonder who’ll pick and pack them when all those job-stealing immigrants have been kicked out … ?

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    The Indians? And then will we hear Middle Britain moaning that they voted to keep out the immigrants and now all the Indians, well educated, with degrees and willing to work for the minimum wage, are coming in and taking all the jobs – the self same jobs that the British ‘wouldn’t get out of bed to do’ for the salaries that they pay!


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    Bluebird
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    I read earlier today that the price of the notional British shopping basket has gone up by 5.7%, mainly because the suppliers of goods sourced from EU producers don’t see why they should have to bear the cost of Britain’s isolationism. It looks like the English will have to start growing their own mushrooms instead of importing them from Ireland and Poland. I wonder who’ll pick and pack them when all those job-stealing immigrants have been kicked out … ?

    Alas the mindset of the ‘vote to leave’ brigade is one of blame it on who ever fits my bigoted stance on… well everything.

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    violet
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    Ha ha …have to agree with you Celtic Rambler ,,,obviously May has gone to India to negotiate a cheap deal on cow manure to nourish all of us ex pats ….just like said mushrooms ,,,,,kept in the dark and fed on s……. – nothing better than sacred s….!  so now we know :yahoo:


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    amico
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    I read earlier today that the price of the notional British shopping basket has gone up by 5.7%, mainly because the suppliers of goods sourced from EU producers don’t see why they should have to bear the cost of Britain’s isolationism. It looks like the English will have to start growing their own mushrooms instead of importing them from Ireland and Poland. I wonder who’ll pick and pack them when all those job-stealing immigrants have been kicked out … ?

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    I wonder what is going to happen to all the produce that is sent from the EU to the UK as Junker is saying that producers should not get into negotiations with the UK and agreeing  export deals . That has to be left to Brussels to sort out …….. So what happens if French wine producers do a supply deal  with their UK customers to  supply them over a few coming years .  Is somebody supposed to sharpen the blade of the guillotine on EU HQ orders  or do you think Junker will be told to F off  ?


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    pommehomme
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    I know that the French viticulteurs are powerful, but are you seriously suggesting that they could negotiate a deal whereby the wine they supply to UK customers is free of any tariff or suchlike that the UK Government might impose in consequence of the negotiation of its terms of departure from the EU? I don’t think that I’ve ever heard any suggestion that the EU wants to impose tariffs and suchlike on exports from EU countries to non-EU countries.


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    lindal1000
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    I’m not sure that the UK is such a big consumer of French wine. I certainly never seem to see that much of it. China is a pretty big consumer though. Every year they buy the entire production from one of our local vineyards.


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