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    Bluebird
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    Several views on how the year ahead could pan out. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-01-03/the-year-that-makes-or-breaks-brexit

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    Maybe this winter will focus the minds of those who were fooled into believing there would be more money for the NHS?

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    Starve the troll

    Absolutely Andy. It will only get worse as the numbers of doctors and nurses from the EU declines further. The state of the NHS this winter is nothing short of appalling.


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    “Hungary, Ireland oppose EU-wide tax harmonisation efforts” – http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-hungary-ireland-taxation/hungary-ireland-oppose-eu-wide-tax-harmonisation-efforts-idUKKBN1ET1ZU
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    Well that is an interesting show of solidarity, should make atom macron eulogise.


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    Well that is an interesting show of solidarity, should make atom macron eulogise.

    Two countries with a common greed. I don’t think it will get through.


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    Andy didn’t specify the retirees had to be poverty stricken on SRP,

    I’m sure those members on here who live on their SRP will appreciate your concern.


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    Andy didn’t specify the retirees had to be poverty stricken on SRP,

    I’m sure those members on here who live on their SRP will appreciate your concern.

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    OOF, low blow !  :wacko:

    I’ve never claimed to be Mother Theresa though looking at my tax bill I should get some sort of award.

     


    Je suis Spotty - FSM, he boiled for our sins !

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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jan/06/vat-upfront-after-brexit-uk-imports

    Interesting this as it’s something I really do know something about. It doesn’t get too technical for obvious reasons, but depending on whether businesses pay their VAT monthly or quarterly and how seasonal their businesses are will make a massive difference to how much the cash flow hit is, but for the worst effected it could be really hard.

    But what’s especially interesting is that they have completely missed how this will impact on exports to the EU, in my case it could be the final nail in not choosing to buy product in the UK.  If I have a 120k credit line for seasonal stock this will get me 100k of stock in the UK but from anywhere else in Europe I could spend the whole 120k on stock.


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    Yes, good observation, is that already the case for UK companies that import from outsied the EU 27?

    As you say it wont go down well with the UK companies nor the EU suppliers if it goes through in that way.

    Both in the UK and France I (as an individual not a company) only had to pay VAT on stuff that came from the States and with the larger delivery companies who set up the systems to exploit it by adding handling charges/frais de dossier, I get the impression that if the law was enforced equally, i.e the government insists then the same would be true for stuff coming from China, being asked to pay on the doorstep will go down like a lead ballon with those buying seasonal tat from Ebay, often you dont even know the stuff is coming from China as they masquerade as UK sellers.

    I know that when you speak of seasonal purchases its not tat Roadrat!

    Is the above supposition re vat liability from China etc true? If so then the disadvantaged EU sellers will soon scream concurrence déloyale and insist that world-wide direct internet purchases have VAT levied on them and maybe not just in the UK.

    Its definitely a key issue.


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    ………….. buying seasonal tat from Ebay, often you dont even know the stuff is coming from China as they masquerade as UK sellers. …….

    If you scroll right down the the end of the Ebay Description page, you should see the real details, including the address of the seller. Often this is in the Far East, even though the “Item location” is shown as UK or a European country.

    I have noticed that some sellers in the Far East are aware of this, and one has to scroll through yards of superfluous information and blank space before arriving at their details.

     


    Thanks to the Autoroutes and the use of GPS it is now possible to travel the length and breadth of France without seeing anything or speaking to anyone. Inspired by Charles Kuralt

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    The world of Ebay and Amazon is a whole new can of worms yet to be discussed. There are some real issues relating to both not complying with EU vat laws and conventions already, god knows how Brexit will impact.  For some UK businesses on Ebay selling only in the UK it could be an opportunity as German sellers take a bit chunk at the moment and will be shut out to a great extent by the increases  in shipping costs that are bound to follow any sort of Brexit.

    Business imports from China or elsewhere outside the EU  have always been subject to VAT/TVA on entry, usually collected by the shipping agent or on smaller quantities by  the transporter. One difference in France compared to the UK is that you can immediately offset this if you pay TVA monthly, but in the UK it’s 3 months regardless in told.  But at the least it’s still an extra 20% out of the cashflow, for several weeks.


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    Ma-ke-long, The horse that tames the dragon. Makes a favourable impression on his first day in China. Brits, krauts and yankees stand in awe.
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    http://mobile.lemonde.fr/asie-pacifique/article/2018/01/08/macron-veut-batir-la-confiance-avec-la-chine_5238752_3216.html?xtref=


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    Meanwhile the GroKo cogitating endorses the f##in obvious, for Angelita the kohlendioxid targets are pie in the sky.
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    http://spon.de/ae8TR

    SéGo will be cross.


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    “German parties agree to scrap 2020 climate target – sources” – http://uk.reuters.com/article/uk-germany-politics/german-parties-agree-to-scrap-2020-climate-target-sources-idUKKBN1EX0OW
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    Reuters takes up the sad tale of another Angelita promise exploded.


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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    Wise words from the man himself.
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    I saw this on the BBC and thought you should see it:

    EU’s Juncker: Don’t believe Brexit won’t happen – http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-42609057


    I would lie on top of the stairs and smell the cigar smoke of Castro.

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