Confused About the EU’s 90/180 Day Rule? Here’s How it Works

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Confused About the EU’s 90/180 Day Rule? Here’s How it Works

British second-home owners in France after Brexit are now bound by the rules of non-EU citizens. This means that you can only visit France for up to 90 days within any 180 day period. But how is this 90-day rule calculated and what impact does this have on your travels to France?

How does the 90-day rule work?

The 90/180-day rule applies to the whole Schengen area, not just France. That means the total number of days that you spend within any of the 26 Schengen zone countries (including Norway, Iceland, and Switzerland). The count starts from the day you enter the Schengen area to the day you leave.

So, for example, if you flew from the UK to France (entering the Schengen area), spent 5 days in France, then drove into Spain for a further 5 days before returning to the UK (leaving the Schengen zone), you would have spent a total of 10 days in Schengen zone.

If you flew from the UK to France (entering the Schengen area), spent 5 days in France before returning to the UK (leaving the Schengen zone) for 5 days, and then flew to Spain for a further 5 days, you would still have spent a total of 10 days in Schengen zone.

It’s the total number of days spent within the Schengen area that is taken into account.

Calculating the 180 days

Where it gets slightly more complicated is the EU definition of ’90 days within any 180-day period’. Here, it’s best to think of the 180 days as a moveable timeframe rather than a fixed 180-day period. The 180 days are counted backwards from the date of arrival or departure from the Schengen area.

Each time you enter or leave Schengen area, a new 180-day period would be calculated from that date. You do not need to concern yourself about dates of previous arrivals and departures, only the total number of days spent within the zone during that particular 180-day period.

If you arrived in France from the UK on March 15th, it would be the 180 days before March 15th that would be taken into account. If you had already spent the whole months of November, December, and January in France (totalling 90 days) and hoped to return on March 15th, you would be refused entry.

Planning your trip to France

If you are planning multiple trips to France, it can quickly get confusing! Using this short stay calculator can help. Enter the dates of entry and exit, and it will calculate the total number of days (and remaining days) within a 180 day period. The ‘control’ option allows you to calculate the length of previous stays or your current stay. The ‘planning’ option lets you set the date you plan to return to the Schengen area and will inform you of how many days you have left to use.

Remember that travel restrictions and Covid regulations are currently in place. See our article on Travel Between France and the UK in 2021 for the latest details.

What are the penalties for overstaying?

For Brits or other non-EU travellers who overstay the 90 days, the penalty is typically a fine and an order to leave the country within 30 days. If you failed to leave the country after that order expires, the penalties would be far more severe.

For frequent travellers and second-home owners, the biggest consequence of this is receiving an ‘over-stay’ flag on your passport. Not only can this make it more difficult to re-enter France in the future, it could affect your chances of receiving a visa in any other country you choose to visit. If you ever chose to apply for a long-stay visa or seek residency in France, this over-stay flag would almost certainly make your application more difficult and could be grounds for refusal.

Throughout 2021, we’ve heard reports of Brits who have overstayed their 90 days (by even just two days) and have received a €198 fine as well as an over-stay stamp in their passport. It appears that border controls in France and elsewhere in the Schengen zone are strictly monitoring Brits entering and leaving the zone. Our advice is to make sure you fully understand the 90-day rule, always stay within the limits (do not assume that overstaying by one or two days will be overlooked – it won’t!), and make sure that your passport is correctly stamped whenever you enter or leave the zone.

Staying in France for more than 90 days?

If you plan to stay in France for more than 90 days in a 180 day period, or spend over 90 consecutive days in France, you will need to apply for a long-stay visa or visa de long séjour temporaire visiteur. This allows you to stay up to one year, but not to work or study. Visa applications are considered on an individual basis, and you must prove that you have sufficient funds and healthcare coverage for the duration of your stay. If you are not sure what kind of visa you need, our complete guide to French visas is the best place to start.

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FrenchEntrée's Digital Editor, Zoë is also a freelance journalist who has written for the Telegraph, HuffPost, and CNN, and a guidebook updater for the Rough Guide to France and Rough Guide to Dordogne & Lot. She lives in the French countryside just outside of Nantes.

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  •  Donna Bradley
    2022-06-22 08:07:08
    Donna Bradley
    Hi Zoe I was wondering if you could help us. We have second home in France. We did not want to be restricted by the 90 day rule. Therefore we applied for a 1 year visa which was issued on 23.9.21 and expires on 23.9.22. We would like to stay until 1.11.22 can we tag on the 90 day rule onto our one year Visa. If not do you have any advice?

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-24 07:36:18
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Donna, The time spent in France under a long-stay visa does not count towards your 90-day allowance. However, you must leave and re-enter the Schengen zone before your visa expires, even if this is just for one day. Your passport will be stamped upon exit to prove that you have not overstayed your visa, and it will be stamped when you return in order to 'activate' your 90-day allowance. Best regards, Zoe

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  •  Jo Palmer
    2022-06-17 11:17:29
    Jo Palmer
    Hi Zoe, I'm in a panic because after a holiday in Spain (where we entered on 10th April) none of my family got an exit stamp in their passport - I can't remember if the passports were scanned or not. Since then one of my sons and me went to Holland via France and back entering France on 30th May and exiting on 2nd June. Only my passport was stamped. We do not have any boarding passes to prove anything as we threw them away - we do have out booking with Jet 2 which shows our return flight to UK but someone could argue that we didn't go on it I suppose. The problem we have is that we are due to go to Sweden on 30th July for 10 days. If we count from 10th April this is more than 90 days - I think the 90 days will be up to 8th July! My question is - other than booking a quick one night in Paris for all of us to get the exit stamp before 8th July - what would you advise? A previous answer of yours seems to suggest they would let you in after 90 days but with a fine? I have not read this anywhere else. My travel agent is suggesting to chill out and the fact that we will be on a plane from UK is proof enough for Sweden that we haven't stayed in Schengen area since 10th April but I'm not sure about taking that risk? Could the French/Spanish embassy in London stamp for me? Please help.

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-24 07:31:57
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Jo, I think your travel agent is right in that being as you are travelling from the UK, it will be clear that you have left the Schengen zone - however, without a stamp, there may be some dispute as to the date you left. If I was you, I would keep proof of the dates you left France (i.e. your flight booking) to hand, just in case you are questioned about this - if you are, stay calm and simply explain the truth as you have done here. Ultimately, you have not done anything wrong and you haven't overstayed the 90 days, so any further investigation would reveal this to be true. In the future, it's a good idea to double check that your passport is stamped both on entering and leaving the Schengen zone, as mistakes do sometimes happen! Best of luck for your travels.Zoe

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  •  Peggy Goaten
    2022-06-11 12:15:01
    Peggy Goaten
    Hi Zoe we are currently in the process of awaiting our second long stay visa however a few points we didn’t know. Last year our visa started 8/8/21 snd valid for 6 months we applied again this year in 6/5/22 to be told we were 2 days too early (didn’t know ) we have just applied again 07/06/22 to be told visa to start 8:8:22 and will have to leave France back to U.K. if we go to France before this date to activate our visa?? We didn’t know this and cannot find it anywhere on the internet, we haven’t yet used any of our 90 days this year , can you help us? this correct or can we go and the visa automatically is valid from 8:8/22 and we can stay regards

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-24 08:20:26
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Peggy,
      Yes, as far as I am aware, you must enter France using your long-stay visa in order to activate that visa. If you are already in France, I'm afraid this does means you will need to leave the country and re-enter. Best regards, Zoe

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  •  Huw Lloyd-Richards
    2022-06-08 03:35:12
    Huw Lloyd-Richards
    Dear Zoe I have had a six month visa for France since Dec 3rd 2021, I went to/stayed in France for a total of 55 days during the validity of the Visa. I returned to UK 3 days after its expiry. I assume now that I can re-enter France next week and my 90 days will be calculated by deducting the 3 days I stayed longer than the Visa was valid and that I can therefore stay for up to 87 days. I have noticed that passport control have always been stamping my passport during the Visa period. Will these stamps make any difference to me being allowed the 90 day rule? I assume that only the 3 days I exceeded the visa period will be taken against my 90 days.

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-24 08:38:29
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Huw, Yes, you are correct that your long-stay visa will trump the 90 days and that any days within the visa period should not be counted towards your 90 days. However, being as your passport was stamped during this time, I would be prepared to explain this and point out your visa in the instance that border guards question this. Best of luck for your travels, Zoe.

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  • RICHARD CRISPIN
    2022-06-07 05:59:03
    RICHARD CRISPIN
    What do I need to do to buy a house in France and stay permanently

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  •  Aleana
    2022-06-06 01:23:24
    Aleana
    Hi Zoe, I am a British citizen and I have an Italian unmarried partner (we also have two children). Does 90/180 day rule apply to me when we are travelling together in Schengen countries?

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-07 11:47:39
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Aleana, France is among the EU countries that do recognise de facto unions for residency purposes (see here for more on this), but it is also one of the EU countries that requires EU spouses to apply for a spousal visa (which is free and follows a simplified process) in order to visit for periods of over 90 days (refer to our article French Residency: Can I Join My EU Spouse or Family Member in France? for more on this). As I understand it, as your partner's 'conjoint' (cohabiting partner), you should also be able to apply for this spousal visa, which you will need if you want to visit France with your partner for over 90 days. Best regards, Zoe

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  •  John Thomasson
    2022-06-04 10:19:27
    John Thomasson
    In the current year 2022, I have had 2 short stays of 28 days each. The first was from 03.03.22-31.03.22. The second was from 28.04.22-26.05.22. I am due to go again on 08.06.22 and return on 07.07.22. Last year, I spent from 26.08.21-23.0921 I am concerned that I might be breaking either the 90 day or 180 day rules Being nearly 80 I am not tech savvy

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-04 12:00:16
      Zoë Smith
      Hi John,
      I know it can be confusing, so if you can't use the online calculators, here's my tip. Get yourself a diary that has all the dates of the year on one page (this kind of thing - https://www.calendar.best/images/2022/week-numbers/2022-calendar-with-us-week-numbers-landscape-blue-600.jpg).

      Get a highlighter and mark all the days you were in France. Then look at the date you wish to enter France for your next trip, and count BACKWARDS 180 days (roughly 6 months) from there. How many days are highlighted? 90 - that number = how many of your 90 days you have left. If you are nearing 90 days, it should be quite easy to spot, as almost half of the space will have highlighter!

      This 180 period will be different for every trip you take, depending on the date you plan to re-enter France. But if you keep a dairy of this throughout the year, you can do the same every time you plan a new trip and check how many days you have left.

      I hope this helps and best of luck for your travels! Zoe

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  •  Tessa
    2022-06-04 02:37:31
    Tessa
    Hi Zoe, I have a question regarding this information. I am an American student studying abroad. I have a long-stay visa valid during my semester at school, but I'd like to stay and travel afterwards. Do you have any information on whether or not I can tack on the 90-day rule to a long-stay visa? I've looked everywhere and can't seem to find a straight answer! Thanks, Tessa

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-06 15:37:42
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Tessa, As I understand it, you will need to leave France before your long-stay visa expires, then you may re-enter and receive the 90-day stamp in your passport and stay for another 90 days. If you don't leave and re-enter France/the Schengen Zone, when you do leave, your passport will show that you have overstayed your visa. However, there's no minimum requirement for how long you must leave the country - you could for example, take a cheap flight or Eurostar to the UK and then come straight back again.
      Hope this helps! Zoe

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  •  Harry Fox
    2022-06-01 12:23:17
    Harry Fox
    Greetings, Zoe. I hold a US Passport, but have permanent residency ("C") in (Schengen) Switzerland. What restrictions, if any, exist for my visitation in France? Thank you for your reply in advance. Harry

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-06-01 16:01:26
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Harry,
      Both Switzerland and the US are on France's green list for travel, meaning there are currently no Covid-related restrictions for travel. If you are not fully vaccinated, you will need to present a negative Covid test prior to travel. If you are fully vaccinated, there are no further requirements other than proof of vaccination. Happy travels!
      Zoe

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  •  Andrew
    2022-05-21 07:50:16
    Andrew
    Hi Zoe. Your explanation of the 90 day rule is very good and has helped me understand the requirements set. I still remain unsure though about a 6 month french visa I previously had that expired last month (April 22) and wondered if you could advise on this. I did use the visa and stayed in France for several months during this time. Does this count when calculating the 90/180 rule ? or going forward, when working out the time I have spent in france, do I calculate this from the date of the visa expiry ( ie the time I spent in france during the period of the 6 month visa is not included ? ). Thanks. Andrew

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-24 12:35:04
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Andrew, Your 6-month visa is counted separately to the 90-day period, so the time you spent in France under the period of the visa won't count towards your 90 day allowance. You can in theory, leave France after your visa expires, then return the next day under the '90/180 day' rule! However, you should be careful that you do not spend a total of more than 183 days in France during any given calendar year, as doing so can mean that you are classed as tax resident in France (and therefore liable for French taxes). You can read more about that in this article: Understanding French Tax- Are You Tax Resident in France? I hope this helps clarify things! Best, Zoe

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  • Margot Piccirillo
    2022-05-16 06:29:09
    Margot Piccirillo
    Hi Zoe! I am slighty confused.... Aren't we allowed to "visit" the UK from france for 6 months max without a Visa? Why do you say 90 days?

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-17 08:23:49
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Margot, The rules for entering/visiting the UK are different to those to entering/visiting France and/or the Schengen Zone. The 90/180 day rule only applies to non-EU citizens traveling to France/the Schengen Zone. Best, Zoe

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  • Georgina
    2022-05-12 05:15:39
    Georgina
    If I entered Croatia and Montenegro on my trip through Europe would they be counted in my 90 days as they are not Schengen countries? Very useful artical . Thank you. Georgina

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-13 07:11:04
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Georgina, The 90 days only begins when you enter the Schengen zone and receive a stamp in your passport. Hope this helps! Zoe

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  • Williams Ador
    2022-05-11 05:28:08
    Williams Ador
    Hello I have 3 years multiple Schengen visa and I can stay for 90 days how long should I stay away before I can come back to visit

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  • Kim trussell
    2022-05-09 10:02:26
    Kim trussell
    Hello Zoe My son worked in France for 72 days. He returned last week. Next week we are due to go to France for 28 day touring holiday. Does the 72 days work (he paid French tax etc) count within his 90/180 allowance? Many thanks

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-12 12:55:10
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Kim, I assume that your son had a work visa to cover his stay in France - if that is the case and his 72 days was covered by his visa, it will not affect his 90-day allowance. Enjoy your travels!

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  •  Sylvia Hanna
    2022-05-09 08:40:21
    Sylvia Hanna
    Hello Zoe, I am still slightly puzzled by this new 90 day rule. I am staying in France from 7th March to 30th May, which I calculate as 85 days. I have counted forward only 85 days, as I think I have 5 days still available from my 90 days and I would like to return 28th August for another month. Will this be okay? Fingers crossed I have worked it out correctly. Thank you Sylvia

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-12 12:57:30
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Sylvia, You need to count backwards 180 days from August 28th, then count how many days you have spent in France within this period. Subtract this number from 90 and the remainder will be the amount of time you have left to visit France under the 90/180 day rule. Hope this helps! Zoe

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  • Rosemary Gintz
    2022-05-06 11:48:28
    Rosemary Gintz
    Hi, I am married to a French national, however I have a British passport. We have just spent 62 days in France in our 2nd home, however,,we have now put the property on the market. Very confused if I need visa to return if property sale goes through before I have been back in UK for 90 days. I have looked at visa for France but don't know if this will allow me to leave UK if necessary. Your advice would be appreciated

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  •  Suzanne Emmett
    2022-05-03 06:29:10
    Suzanne Emmett
    Hi Zoe, Great article, thank you. Boy, it’s confusing and I’ve got myself worried about 2 trips to Europe. We’re already booked for Spain 24 January to 20 March 2023 but would like to also go to France in the Motorhome from 1 September until 5 October 2022. By my calculations using your article, that’s permissible. Do you agree? Just wanted to check before we book the France trip! Thank you so much for your help. Suzanne

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-04 14:49:55
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Suzanne, I know it's confusing! The simplest advice is to count back 180 days from the dates you plan to enter the Schengen zone (so each time you enter this will be a different 180-day period). If you have not reached your 90-day limit within those 180 days, then you will be free to enter the zone for the remaining period. Best of luck for your travels! Zoe

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  •  Brad Todd
    2022-04-28 07:50:02
    Brad Todd
    Hello, I currently work offshore in France which is outside the 12 mile zone. Do these days contribute to my 90? I have Seaman’s book stamped by the vessel which proves my location. I work 2 weeks on 2 weeks off but with a travel day either side I am France for 16 days (offshore for 14). Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated Thanks

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-04 15:11:47
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Brad, As far as I know, if your passport is being stamped for the 90 days, then it will count towards your allowance. However, it appears that there may be some specific rules regarding seafarers and I know there are specific visas available for offshore workers - perhaps this link will help https://www.pya.org/News/Guide---Brexit-regulations-for-yacht-crew.aspx. Otherwise, I suggest talking with your employer who may be better able to advise on the specifics. Please do let us know if you get some answers on this. Best regards, Zoe

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  •  jackie inston
    2022-04-28 03:46:50
    jackie inston
    hi I used to travel to eu countries for about 4 months each year. I was in EU 16/12/21 to 13/01/22 07/03/22 to 04/04/22 I want to return 24/05/22 to 24/06/22 Am I ok, I seem to get conflicting answerels from Shengen Calculator ??

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-05-04 13:27:49
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Jackie You need to count back 180 days from the dates you plan to enter the Schengen zone (so each time you enter this will be a different 180-day period). If you have not reached your 90-day limit within those 180 days, then you will be free to enter the zone for the remaining period. best regards, Zoe

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  • Claire Millward
    2022-04-25 02:38:59
    Claire Millward
    Hi there, SHENGEN VISA QUESTION: According to the 90/180 days rule, if you stay 90 days out of 180 days, then you have to wait 90 days before you enter Europe again MY question: if you stay LESS than 90 days, i.e. 75 days, do you still have to WAIT 90 days before you return to Europe? My travel plans are as follows: 24 Feb - 2 May: 45 days in Europe Approx. 18 July - 2 August: brings me to around 65 days Do I then have to WAIT until 2nd of November to return to Europe, even if I haven't used up my 90 days? Thank you! Claire Millward

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  •  gordon holloway
    2022-04-14 10:14:22
    gordon holloway
    Hello I wonder if possible you can help me Ihave some dates that I have been to Europe and also looking forward to travelling again if i could state them to you is it possible to let me know if i am breaking the limit of my stay 1st I was in France and Spain with my motorhome from 20/01/22 until 27/06/22 2nd I would like to travel to France between 16/08/22 until 20/09/22 3rd I have a holiday booked in Lanzarotte 16/11/22 until 17/11/22 and finally I would like to travel via France in to Spain 28/12/22 until 17/03/23 I really appreciate any help or advice you could give me

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    • Peter Bromley
      2022-04-18 09:21:16
      Peter Bromley
      Hi Gordon, and hi Zoe Firstly Gordon, you need to leave the Schengen zone tomorrow 19th April if you arrived on the 20th January. You can’t come back for another 90 days minimum… Very helpful Zoe, thanks Peter

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-04-15 09:34:07
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Gordon
      You need to count back 180 days from the dates you plan to enter the Schengen zone (so each time you enter this will be a different 180-day period). If you have not reached your 90-day limit within those 180 days, then you will be free to enter the zone for the remaining period.
      best regards, Zoe

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  •  Sarah Marshall
    2022-04-13 11:31:36
    Sarah Marshall
    Dear Zoe We, my husband and I, have a dilemma regarding the six month visa we have just applied for. Assuming our application is successful, (we are currently waiting for the return of our passports with hopefully the stamped visa) and we are able to enjoy our French home from the end of May this year until the end of November when, after that time are we entitled to visit another Schengen country. I cannot find any information regarding the exact rules governing the restrictions on six month visas other than one must not obviously exceed that time by even a day. However if we left France at the end of November do we have to wait 90 days before re entering Portugal, Madeira, for a planned and paid for short Christmas break. Should we, in this instance, disregard the six month visa and return to Uk from France 90 days before we plan to visit Madeira in December? If that is the case can we still stay in France from the end of May until mid September which would exceed the 90 day ruling but be allowed with our six month visa. All rather confusing but I hope you get the gist! We would very much appreciate any help with this matter as I suspect would many other French home owners who are also wondering how the six month visa works within a twelve month period throughout the Schengen countries.

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-04-15 09:46:06
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Sarah, The six-month visa and your Schengen zone allowance are calculated separately, so any time you have accrued in France during the period covered by your six-month visa will not affect your visit to Portugal. Your 90-day allowance will be governed by the stamps in your passport - when you enter France using your six-month visa, your passport should not be stamped for your 90-day allowance (as you are visiting using your visa). When you leave France and re-enter Portugal at a later date, your passport will be stamped, and this will start the 90-day allowance.
      There are two things to remember here:
      1. While you are entitled to use both your entire six-month visa in France AND later return to France using your 90-day allowance (you must leave and re-enter France to do so), you cannot stay more than six months (183 days to be precise) in France in one calendar year without being classed as tax-resident in France, so we recommend being careful not to overstay this total amount.
      2. You must leave and re-enter the Schengen zone to start your 90-day allowance and receive the stamp in your passport - if you were to travel straight to Portugal from France, there is a good chance you would be accused of overstaying your 90-day allowance when you leave Portugal as you would not have the correct stamp in your passport.
      All this being said, regarding the plan outlaid above, it sounds like you would be able to enjoy your full six months in France, and then also enjoy your holiday in Portugal.
      Safe travels! Zoe

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  •  David Vallis
    2022-04-06 09:13:36
    David Vallis
    Once a 6 month visa for France expires as I understand it I cannot apply for another for a further 6 months. However can I then take advantage of the 90 days in 180 rule??

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-04-07 11:22:26
      Zoë Smith
      Hi David,
      The 90-day rule and the temporary long-stay visa are separate, and therefore, yes, you can still enter France using your 90-day allowance after your visa expires. However, you should be wary of how long you spend in France in total - if you spend more than 183 days in France, you can be classed as tax resident in France and may be liable for taxes (see our article for more on that: https://www.frenchentree.com/living-in-france/french-tax/are-you-tax-resident-in-france/). Failure to fulfil your tax liabilities in France could not only lead to problems with the tax authorities, but it may also lead to future visa applications being refused. To avoid any problems, if you are not planning to become resident in France, I do not advise spending more than 183 days in France during any calendar year, regardless of whether your visa/90 day allowance permits you to or not.
      Thanks!

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  •  Robert Wilson
    2022-03-23 06:36:33
    Robert Wilson
    I have tried to make this 90/180 days less complicated, I would appreciate it if you let me know why my system is going wrong. Break problem down into rules. Rule 1 in 180 day period only stay 90 days or less. Rule 2 When yo have taken 90 days stay out of Schengen 90 days. Rule 3 First day back after your 90 days out of Schengen new 180 day period begins. Rule 4 If you take less than 90 days in your 180 day period you loose those days, stay away for 90 days. Rule 5 Only count forward from your very first day ever in Schengen or after a break of 90 days away. I have worked out my time away and the calculator has given me the thumbs up.

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  •  Roy boon
    2022-03-06 09:45:55
    Roy boon
    Hello Zoe I went to Portugal 12/10/2021 back 20/11/2021 40day time allowed 50days, didn't go back again, when can I go back? Is it easy to get a visa I have a caravan in the Algarve, best wishes hope you can help Roy

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  • E M Hatcher
    2022-03-02 08:28:43
    E M Hatcher
    Hi Zoe We want to arrive in France on 22 May 2022 until 23 July 2022 and then again from 11August until 27 September. Is this allowed ? Many thanks

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  •  Robert Shaw
    2022-03-02 02:36:11
    Robert Shaw
    Hi Zoe I went to Tenerife 15 Decembe 2021 I came back 15 February 2022 i have a trip book to Portugal 25 March till 31 March wiil this be ok

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  • Sabine HOYSTED
    2022-02-28 12:28:19
    Sabine HOYSTED
    Please advise: we are Resident in UK, and want to remain so but we have a second residence in France. We applied for a visa de long sejour to spend less than 6 months in our house . We were told that it was 6 months in a calendar year from 1 jan to 31 dec. Can we obtain a 5 years visa of which we would strictly calculate 6 months of use and be legal? I do not understand the BACK counting from last entry if not from the stipulated 1 jan to 31 dec 2022.

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  • peter finch
    2022-02-26 04:50:27
    peter finch
    Zoe I am confused - I arrived in France 11/02/22 returning to the U K on the 0503/22 so i have spent 21 days in France then i have 69 days left from my allowance of 90 I then spend 30 days in the U k and come back to France on 06/04/22 returning to the U K on 03/05/22 - 27 days Is the time spent in the U K credited back to the rolling 90 so effectively the clock is reset to zero. i am a second home owner so have been used to coming & going. i have applied for an annual visa

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  •  Douglas Skinner
    2022-02-25 05:07:04
    Douglas Skinner
    Hi Zoe, This year I will start a new 180 day period on 2nd Sept and stay until 13th Oct 2022 42days Next year I propose to return to Europe on 15th Feb and stay until 1st March 15 days (180 day period ends) Can I continue my stay in Europe from 2nd March until 30th March in my new 180 day period without having to leave Europe.

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  • stephen connolly
    2022-02-24 01:25:57
    stephen connolly
    Hi Zoe, I have a query for you. I had a 6 month long stay visitors visa last year for France running from 25 May 21 to 25 November 21. I have now applied for another 6 months visa for this year running for the same timescale - May to November. However I have not used any of my 90 day Schengen allowance in the last 180 days and would like to go to France on this 90 day allowance from 1 May. Do I need to then come back to the uk prior to the new 6 month visa starting on 25 May or can I stay in France and allow it to begin on this date? Alternatively could I travel to Spain and come back into France to kick start the 6 month visa?

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  •  Les Muller
    2022-02-16 06:56:05
    Les Muller
    Hi Zoe: We are scheduled to fly from the US to France April 7, 2022. We have a 6 month French Visa but will also travel at least half that time throughout Italy, Spain and Portugal. My wife has relatives in Sweden and we were planning to fly back to the US via Sweden at the end of the 6 month period. I'm concerned that we are then out of the 90/180 rule for the Schengen States. Does the 6 month French visa allow us 6 months within the other Schengen states? If not, we will have to change our plans and visit Sweden towards the beginning of our trip Thanks Les

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-02-17 11:36:52
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Les, Your six-month French visa will allow you to stay in France for the duration of your visa. Whenever you travel outside of France to another EU country, you will be subject to the 90/180-day law upon entering those countries. In reality, being as passport checks are not always carried out at borders within the Schengen Area, this is rarely enforced, but it's still worth being aware of the laws. Your six-month visa for FRANCE does not give you the right to stay in SPAIN for six months. However, if your intention is to stay in France for the majority of this time and enjoy a few shorter trips (totalling less than 90 days, not including the time you are in France) to other Schengen zone countries, you can absolutely do that! I hope this helps and best of luck with your travels! Zoe

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  • Wyn Evans
    2022-02-13 12:01:39
    Wyn Evans
    Hi Zoe, We have a second home in France and wish to visit for various periods not exceeding two weeks at a time, 15 days 10 to 24 April, 15 Days 09 to 22 May, 8 days 10 to 17 June, 15 days 10 to 24 July and 15 days 09 to 23 October. I am getting very confused regarding if this would be permitted. Can you help. Thanks

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-02-13 20:29:46
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Wyn, May I suggest using the short-stay calculator linked in the article above? Hope this helps! Best, Zoe

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  •  Emma
    2022-02-12 07:55:37
    Emma
    I arrived in Schengen area 7th Jan 2022 and left 11th Feb 2022 when can I visit again ? Thank you

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  •  Beryl Roberts
    2022-02-08 07:48:46
    Beryl Roberts
    I have a problem regarding the 90 day rule in 180 days . I am French resident and visiting my family at Christmas I became quite ill and required para medics and treatment etc so my stay which should have been two weeks has escalated into almost two months . I had visited in October plus leaving early November and some of a stay in August was included in the past 180 days and although I think I am a few days to spare from 90 I am unsure . What happens in cases like these as it was totally unexpected and unavoidable and if I overstayed it was not deliberate and unplanned .I return next week .

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-02-09 09:28:29
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Beryl, I'm not sure which country you are referring to here? If you are a French resident, the 90/180-day rule obviosuly doesn't apply to you in France. Best regards, Zoe

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      •  Beryl Roberts
        2022-03-01 06:15:41
        Beryl Roberts
        Hi Zoe I was visiting the U.K. when delayed so does the 90 day rule apply to people such as myself ie resident in France and visiting in the U.K. . Ie as a French resident does the 90 day rule apply to me as it does if I were visiting France but resident in the U.K. ?

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        • Zoë Smith
          2022-03-02 09:26:02
          Zoë Smith
          Hi Beryl, The 90 day/180 day rule only applies within the EU. As a French resident, the rule doesn't apply to you in France as you have residency. Best, Zoe

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  •  Susan Wild
    2022-02-04 02:28:09
    Susan Wild
    We had a 3-6month visa last year to visit France beginning May 17th. We tried to apply for another visa for this year but were told we couldn't apply for the visa to commence before May 17th this year. My question is can we go to France for two 90 day periods commencing February? Thankyou

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-02-05 21:51:08
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Susan, A temporary long-stay visa is cumulative with the 90/180-day rule meaning that you can visit France outside of the period of your visa, assuming that you fall within the 90/180-day rule when you do so. During the period of your visa, the 90/180-day rule isn't applicable. However, it's important to remember that you shouldn't be spending more than six months a year in France without becoming resident (and liable for taxes) in France. If your travels to France accumulate to more than this or there is reason to believe that you plan to overstay, it could be a reason for your temporary visa application to be refused. If you need advice on your specific situation, you should contact your visa center directly, which you can find here: https://france-visas.gouv.fr/en/web/france-visas/. Each application is considered on an individual basis, so they are the only ones able to offer more personalized advice. Hope this helps and enjoy your travels! Zoe

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  • Madeleine Gorham
    2022-02-02 11:17:53
    Madeleine Gorham
    I am an Irish citizen but my husband just has British nationality... When we travel to France together does the 90 day rule still apply to him? Thank you

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-02-03 09:44:43
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Madeline, Please see my response to Richard below - the rules around this are a bit tricky but I've done my best to explain the key points. Hope this helps! Zoe

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  •  Dianne Roberts
    2022-02-02 11:10:49
    Dianne Roberts
    If for example we have had 90 days in France ( with returning to Jersey for the odd day) in a period of 100 days do we have to wait another 80 days before we can return or do we have to wait 180 days?

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  • Conor
    2022-02-01 11:23:58
    Conor
    Hi Zoe, I was in France for roughly 80 days but I’m now back in the UK and want to return to France to be with a partner I have met. I don’t wish to live there but obtain a visa to be able to come and go freely without the worry of the 90/180 days as I have already accrued around 85 as I believe. If I obtain a visa for a 6 month stay does this mean I am free to return as and when I want and the time I have already spent previously (80 days out of 180) is irrelevant as I will have a visa. Thanks for your insightful answers I can say it’s very helpful and one of a kind as it’s hard to find clear answers online. Conor

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  • Richard Halkes
    2022-02-01 04:01:29
    Richard Halkes
    I have just read your article on the 90/180 day rule for non EU citizens. I have been told by the EU commission that as a UK citizen married to a EU citizen as not to hinder her freedom of movement when I travel with her I am exempt of the 90/180 rule. On checking with the French Consulate they don’t agree and the rule applies, who is right and who is wrong? If it’s right what documents are needed at the border? Hope you can help Richard

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-02-02 09:31:59
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Richard,

      This is a tricky rule and the truth is that both are right. I'll try and explain as best I can!

      Firstly, yes, as an EU citizen, your spouse has the right to have you accompany her when she travels to the EU. So, if you were to show up with your marriage certificate and passports, in theory, they can't refuse you entry.

      However, France is also correct, and here's why. If your wife was to spend more than 90 out of every 180 days in France (i.e. more than six months in a year), she should by law be resident in France - this means she should be paying French taxes/register for a social security number, etc. The reality is that because she is an EU citizen, nobody is checking this, but it is a bit of a grey area. Due to this, if you were to try and enter France and overstay your 90-day visa because you are travelling with your wife, France would have the right to question why your wife is not a resident, and that technically, neither of you have the right to unlimited stays within France without becoming resident.

      Under EU law, if you were to travel to France with your wife (an EU citizen) without a visa and having already overstayed your 90 days, and you state that you are both looking to become resident in France and plan to apply for your Carte de Séjour within the required three months (you can read about the process here: https://www.frenchentree.com/living-in-france/moving-to-france/french-residency-can-i-join-my-eu-spouse-or-family-member-in-france/), they would not be able to refuse you entry. However, it doesn't seem like this is what you intend to do.

      What about if you were to just show up for a holiday in France having already overstayed your visa? While you are within your rights (or rather your wife's rights) to do this, in practice you may have difficulties. I think it would likely depend on who you spoke to at immigration and whether they had reason to believe you were both intending to overstay in France or not. Not every border guard will know the ins and outs of EU and French immigration laws, and you don't want to find yourself in a situation of being refused entry.

      Here's the link to the France visas site so you can see for yourself: https://france-visas.gouv.fr/web/france-visas/ai-je-besoin-d-un-visa I ran a simulation based on your information and it states that you need a visa for a stay of over 90 days even if visiting with your EU spouse.

      If I was in your position I would apply for this visa. Spouse visas are free of charge and they are fast-tracked - it will give you the peace of mind that you can visit France as many times as you like without facing issues at border control.

      If you don't decide to apply for a visa, I would at least make sure that you have all the necessary proof with you that you are not looking to overstay in France - return flights, etc, plus your marriage certificate.

      I hope this helps, and I'm sorry that there isn't a simpler answer. Best of luck with your travels and do let us know how you get on!

      Zoe

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  • Brian Laney
    2022-01-24 01:34:33
    Brian Laney
    Hi my question relates to Guadeloupe. I think I have correctly deduced that Guadeloupe is part of Europe but not part of Schengen. But I need to know if the 90/180 rule applies when visiting Guadeloupe.

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  • Nigel Tier
    2022-01-22 12:47:57
    Nigel Tier
    Hi Zoe A quick question if you can help. I have had a 6 month visa for France which expires at the end of this month and which I have used approximately 3 months in the last 6 months. I want to renew this 6 months visa in May and wondered if I am now on the 90 days out of 180 rule now as I want to travel to France and Greece for about 6-8 weeks before this new visa kicks in. Is this ok? Hope that makes sense. Best Regards Nigel

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  •  Mike Longden
    2022-01-21 08:52:24
    Mike Longden
    Hi We arrived in Schengen on the 29th of July 2021 departed on the 3rd of October 2021 = 67days Have now arrived in Schengen on the 19th of January do we have 23 days ie 67+23 =90 Or do we have more due to the rolling 180 period HELP Thanks Mike

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  •  Paula
    2022-01-14 01:06:00
    Paula
    Ifleft the France on the 28/08/2021 after a 57 day stay....I intend to return to France ion 01/02/2022. Will I get a new 90 day window?

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  • Bryan McMahon
    2022-01-13 06:23:43
    Bryan McMahon
    We are seriously considering buying a holiday home in France If we commit to buying ,is the Long term VISA , after the first year and reapplying ,automatically renewed, if “all’s well “after the first year

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-01-17 10:47:50
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Bryan, Take a look at our articles in our Visas & Residency section for more on this: https://www.frenchentree.com/category/living-in-france/moving-to-france/visas-residency/ One that might be of particular interest if you are looking to move to France would be this one: https://www.frenchentree.com/living-in-france/moving-to-france/the-road-to-permanent-residency-in-france/

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  •  Linda deehan
    2022-01-10 03:31:23
    Linda deehan
    Hi I was in Spain from 1st June /12 july42days 25th sept/9th nov 46 days 8jan And plan to go home 19th feb is this ok ? And when can l come back again and for how long ?

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  •  Ann shaw
    2022-01-10 01:26:23
    Ann shaw
    I went to greece aug 2021 for 1week due to go spain feb 2022 till april 7 weeks and back to greece 2 weeks in aug can i book for spain jan 2023. So confused

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  • peter Robinson
    2022-01-08 10:09:07
    peter Robinson
    if we went to France on the 1st of February returning to the UK 30 days later, then decided to visit again on the 1st of June leaving on the 15th of July which would constitute a total of 75 days within a 180 day period starting on February 1st. Is this within the rules?

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  •  Carol kiteley
    2022-01-07 09:49:38
    Carol kiteley
    Hi my name is carol, my question is I am in France at the moment February 5th I will have been here for 90 days I then go home to England, on the 13th February I will be flying to Cyprus for a 21day holiday is this allowed? as I’ve just been advised by a friend that it’s not. Thankyou for your time Carol.

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  •  Patricia Bollans
    2022-01-06 12:25:30
    Patricia Bollans
    I have worked out that I spent 28 days from September to October in Spain and 42 days from Nov to December in 2021 in Tenerife so will I be able to visit Spain for 2 weeks from 30 Jan to 13 Feb and Tenerife from 22nd February until 17 th March. Your help in calculating this would be much appreciated as I am having difficulty in calculating this.

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-01-06 13:25:09
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Patricia, If your proposed entry date to Spain is the 30th Jan, you need to count back 180 days from then - how many days have you spent in the Schengen Zone during that period? You then need to do the same thing for 22nd February. The calculator linked in the article may also be of help. All the best for your travels! Zoe

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  •  Paul Harwood
    2022-01-04 11:45:54
    Paul Harwood
    Hi Zoe, As I understand it, someone with dual UK and Irish (Republic) passports and having a wife with a UK passport only, is not affected by the 90/180 rule by virtue of one being an EU citizen. This applies when both travel to the EU but would not enable the wife to travel alone to the EU. Can you verify this information for the benefit of those readers who might be in the situation as described. Many thanks.

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-01-06 13:21:46
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Paul, If you travel using your Irish (EU) passport you will not be subject to the 90/180 day rule as you are an EU citizen. Be aware though that this won't be the case if you use your UK passport - it will be stamped and subject to the 180 day rule as you will be opting to enter the EU as a UK citizen. Unfortunately, if your wife is travelling with a UK passport, she would be subject to the 90/180 day rule. If she wanted to accompany you for longer, she would need to apply for the relevant visa. Hope this helps clarify things!

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      •  Pamela
        2022-01-22 10:52:06
        Pamela
        I did not imply that the spouse had an automatic right to stay in the country based on being married if they should stay more than 30 days....I do understand and do know that should they stay more than 90 days then apply for residency before the 90 days run out.That is a different subject to that of the 90/180 rule, yes the wife's passport will always be stamped when she travels with her husband or indeed when she travels alone....I repeat again that while traveling with her husband she is not subject to the 90/180 rule. If they enter Spain and stay for 89 days and return to the Uk, she has not overstayed the 90 days...They can then go straight back to Spain again if she wished with her husband as long as she does not overstay 90days..If you want to go to Your Europe website which has all the Eu information you will ever need you find the correct info on there. As i sad before it is not about the rights of the non EU citizen it is about the rights of the EU citizen and their right to have his wife travel with him.

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      •  Pamela
        2022-01-18 01:41:04
        Pamela
        His wife would not be subject to the 90/180 day rule as long as she was travelling with her Eu husband, the only time that she would need to apply for a vis is if they stayed in Spain longer than 90 days.. As long as they do not over stay the 90days they can leave and keep returning as many times as they wish .

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        • Zoë Smith
          2022-01-19 15:12:21
          Zoë Smith
          Pamela, I'm afraid that is incorrect. Unless you have applied for a spousal visa/residency permit for that country, you are not automatically given a right to stay longer than the 90 days based on being married. In the case of seeking residency, you may enter that country with your spouse and then apply for residency (a right not afforded non-married foreign citizens who must apply for a visa first in their home country). However, for travel purposes, while she would not need a visa, her passport will be stamped and she will be subject to the 90/180 day rule. Remember a "right to EU citizenship" is not the same as "EU citizenship". She has a right to EU residency and citizenship through marriage, but if she has not applied for either of these things, is resident in the UK and only has a UK passport, she is still legally counted as a UK citizen and UK resident regardless of being married and therefore will be treated as such when she travels. I hope this helps clarify things. Best of luck to all of you in your travels.

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  •  Louise
    2022-01-02 02:42:38
    Louise
    Hi, thank you that was very clear. I have a question. We have a carte de séjour for France. How many days are we allowed in the Uk. Many thanks

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    • Zoë Smith
      2022-01-03 12:38:27
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Louise, If you are a French/EU citizen you can stay for up to six months in the UK without needing a visa - the 90/180 rule doesn't apply. If you're a British citizen (but resident in France), there are technically no limits on how long you can spend in the UK, as you are a citizen, but of course it's still important to consider the rules of residence for tax purposes, healthcare, and legal matters (while there may be some exceptions, a good rule of thumb is that you shouldn't be spending more than six months a year in the UK if you are resident in France). I hope this helps!

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  •  Tony. Roberts
    2021-12-27 10:13:09
    Tony. Roberts
    Hi Zoe , We need a little help please , We traveled to Tenerife on November 15 th 2021 and fly back to the UK on January 29 th 2022 a total of 75 days in the Schengen zone . We previously had 7 days in August 2021 in Spain . In June 2022 we will be attending a football game in France & Spain spending 7 days in those countries and in July I will be away again in France with a 3 day football trip . Could you please explain and guide us through the confusing process. Have I enough days to do my planned trips ? . Thank you for your help and time.

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-12-30 09:29:47
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Tony, You need to count back 180 days from the dates you plan to enter the Schengen zone (so each time you enter this will be a different 180-day period). If you have not reached your 90-day limit within those 180 days, then you will be free to enter the zone for the remaining period.

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  • julian
    2021-12-27 07:44:03
    julian
    Zoe, How long can I stay or work in the UK for on a 5yr Carte Sejour. My domicile is in France?

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  •  Doreen Thomas
    2021-12-22 11:33:27
    Doreen Thomas
    Dear Zoe, we just do not seem to be able to get the gist of this calculation 90/180. We went to Crete on 28/08/2021 and return on 25/10/2021, if we went back for our remains 90 out of 180 would we be able to go back to Crete for 3 months at the beginning of March 2022? Please help shareholders understand. Thank you.

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  • Michael Richard Lewis
    2021-12-19 06:25:45
    Michael Richard Lewis
    I left Spain in October and going back now does the 90 days have any affect on my holiday

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  •  John Bibby
    2021-12-07 10:00:29
    John Bibby
    Zoe, As usual your well informed articles about the 90/180 travel restrictions or allowances plus the travel documents needed is extremely useful - thanks for the information which we can use as a checklist. Wishing you a Very Happy Christmas and New Year Best wishes Jean & John BIBBY

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  •  Andrew
    2021-12-03 05:40:07
    Andrew
    Hi Zoe, Thanks for your article. My query relates to when the 90-day allowance resets. I was in Spain 22 August - 15 September, and have spent the 3 months since outside of the Schengen area. My understanding is that on 15 December, my allowance resets and I will have another 90 days, but my partner’s lawyer has informed us that we need to count 6 months from my initial arrival in Spain (22 August), which would mean reset would occur in February/March 2022. Many thanks

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-12-09 12:44:59
      Zoë Smith
      The 180 days is always counted BACKWARDS from the day of entering or leaving the Schengen zone. It never 'resets' as such, it constantly keeps moving. For your situation, the most important date is the date you plan to re-enter the Schengen zone. Let's say you plan to arrive in France on January 15th 2022. The 180 days will be the 180 days BEFORE January 15th 2022. How many days out of 90 will you have already spent in the Schengen zone during that time? The difference is how many days you have left. Does that make sense? Best, Zoe

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  • Jeffrey Noble
    2021-11-25 04:35:46
    Jeffrey Noble
    Hi Zoe, As the calculation is based on a rolling 180 days, does the calculation change for every day you are in the Schengen zone? For example if I have already spent 60 days in the Schengen zone from 1st October 2021 to 30th November 2021, and then I want to travel again from 01st April 2022 to 15th May 2022, then at 01st April 2022 the rolling 180 day calculation would give me 30 days (90-60) further travel in the Schengen zone (i.e. valid to 30 April 2022). However by 30th April 2022 the rolling 180 day calculation would mean I only count back 180 days to 1st November 2021, so the total time in Schengen would be 30 days in November 21 plus the 30 days for April 2022, total 60 days in the last 180 days. Does this mean I can then extend my stay until 30 May 2022?

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  •  Pauline Bell
    2021-11-18 12:54:40
    Pauline Bell
    If I get a 6 months visa, December to May, can I make multiple trips to my holiday home? Can I travel to France on the 90/180 days rule for the rest of the year?

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  •  HBo Max
    2021-11-18 08:40:29
    HBo Max
    You are such a life saver... I never would have fully understood the 90/180 rule if not for your article. Keep up the good work

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  •  Andy T
    2021-11-16 05:19:41
    Andy T
    Hi Zoe, Still a bit confused on the 180 day rolling period. So if you were refused entry on March 15th when would you be able to return? I’m confused about the date of entry and leaving, which is it that really matters. Many thanks Andy

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  •  Susan Leech
    2021-11-11 09:39:47
    Susan Leech
    Hi. We have sold our house in England and are looking forward to buying a house in France. I have Spanish nationality, but my husband is English. ( my husband has an apartment in Mallorca) . He is wondering if taking on residence in Spain, will give him some sort of immunity to the 180 days . Do you advise buying a house in France at the present time. Thank you.

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  •  Nick Lewis
    2021-11-08 02:46:40
    Nick Lewis
    Is it possible post Brexit, for a UK citizen to spend 90 days out of 180 days in France, but also to travel to Switzerland within that 180 days ? Switzerland is not in the EU, but is in the Schengen zone

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-11-10 08:26:46
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Nick, Yes, the 90/180-day rule applies to the whole Schengen area, not just the EU.

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  •  Delphine Harrison
    2021-11-07 01:06:55
    Delphine Harrison
    Do I have to use all of the 90days before I can start to count back to 180 days

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-11-10 08:28:18
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Delphine, The 180 days is a rolling time period counted back from the day of arrival or departure from the Schengen zone - the 90 days can be used at any time within that time period.

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  • MARTIN WITHERINGTON
    2021-10-28 01:16:32
    MARTIN WITHERINGTON
    Long stay visa's in France. are these also the Rolling backward looking date type run in the same manner as the 90/180? FRENCH VISITOR VISA'S. 1. VLS-T 3-6 MONTHS. are these described this way because they are piggy backed into the standard 90/180 allowance? i.e. Does this men up to to 6 months depending on how much of your 90/180 you have used? 2. VLS-TS 6-12 MONTS. Does this mean up to 12 months and once again, is it piggy backed onto the 90/180 as described above? 3. Finally, are these visa's working in the same look back (also described as 'Rolling' period) way. that is you can leave and return ?

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-11-01 01:45:01
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Martin, The above article applies only to the 90-day 'visa on arrival' issued to citizens of the UK, United States, and many other countries when entering the Schengen Zone. This is a short-stay visa. These rules do not apply to any type of long-stay visa - you can read more about those types of visa in our visas and residency section - https://www.frenchentree.com/category/living-in-france/moving-to-france/visas-residency/ Thanks!

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  • peter brack
    2021-10-23 04:52:42
    peter brack
    so if we go to spain for 6 week and dont go back for another 3 month dose that mean we can stay for another 6 weeks

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-11-10 08:30:58
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Peter, Yes, that would be allowed, providing the total time calculated isn't more than 90 days out of the 180.

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  •  Joyce Bainbridge
    2021-10-22 11:46:30
    Joyce Bainbridge
    Hullo. After using your calculator we have 13 daysl left of our 90 day allocation and we plan to use these from November 14 and return 26 November. Our first visit to France was 29 June for 45 days and then 12 September for 32 days. When can we return to France and for how long. Thanks.

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  • Jackie hall
    2021-10-06 06:41:20
    Jackie hall
    Please can you explain to me the 180 days I flew out to spain on the 30th of June and have been back and forth since using 62 days so far have I got till November to use the rest and wat if I don't use the rest dose my 90 days start again and when would that b many thanks

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-11-10 08:35:12
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Jackie, The 180 days is a rolling time frame counted backwards from the day you enter or leave the schengen zone. So, if for example, you flew back to Spain in November, it would be the 180 days before your arrival date that would be concerned - i.e. have you spent 90 days in the Schengen zone between June and November? If you decided to fly to Spain in December instead, it would be time period from July through December that would be taken into consideration, and so on.

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      •  Va-Bene Elikem Fiatsi
        2022-02-24 03:36:02
        Va-Bene Elikem Fiatsi
        Hey Zoë Thanks for the advice. Can you help me calculate this? I am travelling to Switzerland from 1st April to 28 June and return to Ghana where I live. I have been invited also to Germany from 5th July to 30th September. Do you think that is possible to return to Germany after living Switzerland in June and spending one week in Ghana? Thanks for your advice

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  • Carole Sanderson
    2021-09-29 01:14:10
    Carole Sanderson
    I arrived in France on 13th June2021 departed 19th August and returned on 23rd September 2021. I am planning a 7 day skiing trip on 22nd January am I ok to go??? I really would appreciate a reply.

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  •  Alan bolding
    2021-09-24 11:44:09
    Alan bolding
    Hi Zoe, advice if you can please. On the 14th June we flew to Crete, on the 20th July we got a 5 yr Greek residency card, we then returned to UK on 3rd September total of 81 days, meaning we only have 9 days left, my question Is as we got our residency on the 20 July does that time until the 3rd September count as part of of the 90 days if not that would mean we have 45 days left 🤷 Kind regards Alan

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    • Zoë Smith
      2021-11-10 08:39:10
      Zoë Smith
      Hi Alan, If you have a Greek residency card, you no longer need to worry about the 90/180 day rule when travelling to and from Greece. I am not sure about the rules regarding Greek residency cards specifically, but if it is the same as France, it typically wouldn't grant you the right to unlimited time in other EU countries however. If you took a holiday from your home in Greece to France, for example, you would only be allowed to stay 90 days out of 180.

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    •  Graham
      2021-10-20 10:36:38
      Graham
      Alan, Sorry not related in the slightest to your question, but are you an old friend from Chelmsford. Graham.

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  •  M.J.Sharman
    2021-09-17 02:48:50
    M.J.Sharman
    I have a question but then don't we all where this 90/180 days is concerned. I and my wife (both retired) are UK citizens with permanent residency permission to live in Sweden, whilst we have a second home in France. Prior to moving our permanent residency (mine was UK) my wife had lived and obtained a carte de sejour for France which she has not renewed following Brexit due to our (both) removal to Sweden and permanent residency there. The article is very explanatory and helpful (thanks) and I can see that we are able to satisfy the conditions for the long stay visa, that is, if simply visiting our second home is an acceptable reason to the French authorities. The main reason for an extension (long stay visa) is to avoid the restrictions of the 90/180 due to a wish to spend the winter in France away from the winter in Sweden and not be bound by the 90 days. I.E mid December to mid April. which will give us flexibility for travel and stay times and allow for a return without complications. At last the question ... can a second year be applied for once the first year has expired.

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  • Mark Devonshire
    2021-09-09 10:38:06
    Mark Devonshire
    Hello Zoe I am married to a French lady and am British. I have been told that if we are in France visiting/ being with family then my day count is exempt; do you know of this exception ?

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    • 2021-09-20 08:26:47
      Mark Only if you apply for a long stay visa which for a spouse of a French citizen is relatively straightforward, takes two weeks from the interview and costs nothing. However, if you were married in the UK don’t make the mistake of relying on the UK marriage certificate as proof of your partnership. You need a french marriage certificate issued within 6 months of your application or you will be turned away. Good luck

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  • Diana Hayward
    2021-08-30 12:49:01
    Diana Hayward
    I have tried to apply your theory above to my travel plans and cannot understand it at all. Is there an official calculator that a traveller can use to be able to keep within the EU law? I wish to travel to the EU for less than 180 days in a calendar year but need to know if the dates I have booked/wish to book are within the law. Please can you help me, I am going absolutely berserk?

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  •  Dot mcgowan
    2021-08-30 06:02:53
    Dot mcgowan
    When would a second 90 day period start in relation to the ending of the first period

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    •  WilliamRelph
      2021-09-24 05:13:11
      WilliamRelph
      I arrived in France on 26/08/21 to 06/10/21. I am coming back again on 30/11/21 until 15/01/22. When will I be clear to come back again.

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  •  Frank Gavin
    2021-08-27 08:34:50
    Frank Gavin
    Zoe I entered Italy on August 1, and will leaving on Oct 28 (89 days). Can i go to Ireland to stay for a month ? Thanks

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    •  Geezer
      2021-10-12 09:56:40
      Geezer
      Ireland is not privy to schengen. My 90 days are up on october 29th. Im shipping bilbao to Roslare on the 28th. This will not be included in my 90, or i would be refused entry. I will travel in Ireland🇮🇪 then ship back to the uk mid November. This will be part of my non schengen 90 in 🇬🇧 uk

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  •  Linda greenwood
    2021-08-10 10:19:13
    Linda greenwood
    If i used my 90 days by December 2nd when can i go again please

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  •  Lauren
    2021-08-04 03:41:17
    Lauren
    Hello Guys I went to Spain in January via France and the Euro Tunnel. I was not stamped into France, but i was stamped out of Spain in July, where i over stayed my welcome. If I were to fly back to Spain, as i only have an exit stamp, what is the situation. Would they know I outstayed or could i say i flew in the week before?

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  • CHRISTINE ELIZABETH
    2021-07-14 05:21:01
    CHRISTINE ELIZABETH
    when can i start a new 90/180 period after finish my last 90 /180 day ruling

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  • ANNIE F
    2021-07-07 11:13:30
    ANNIE F
    Hello , Does the 90-180 day rule apply to French people living/ residing in the UK? I look forward to your reply Many thanks Best wishes Annie

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  •  Anna Whitehead
    2021-07-04 04:35:50
    Anna Whitehead
    I am also confused about the 180/90 day rule. I was in France from 1st January to 4th April ( I couldn’t get a ferry on the last day of March) I then spent over 90 days in U.K. and am hoping to go back to France on 7th July. Until the end of September thus using up my 180 days in France.

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  • Alan Rhys-Thompson
    2021-06-13 11:11:29
    Alan Rhys-Thompson
    I think the most confusing thing is the calculation of the 180 days. For example, should I open a moon in France from July, then a second in October, are you saying a new 180 days starts at the start of the October visit? That seems unfair. Why shouldn't the 180 months be from July to end December then a new 180 days begin from January 1? Alan Rhys-Thompson

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  •  Nicolas
    2021-06-06 08:44:07
    Nicolas
    Hello, I’m so confused and wondering if you could help me: I entered Spain December 23,2020 left via paris March 4th, 2021: total of 72 days, and re entered today June 6th. Now do I have 90 fresh days again or start with 18 ? Thank you so much

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